Renton 21602 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 1 minute ago, adios said: Calm down. If Trump disbands NATO, what's the alternative? I've never understood the support for NATO, with America having military bases on UK soil, and objection to basically the same thing but without an increasingly erratic America calling the shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Well, I would think NATO without America and they can get the fuck off our lawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5217 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Agree with Renton on the EU army, but as an EU Federalist, I woulda backed that anyway. Trump proposing to abandon NATO, a predominantly US initiative, is incredible. Fuck it, maybe we should start working for closer ties with the Chinese and abandon the Americans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 And the Russians tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21602 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Also, don't fucking encourage Germany to spend more on its army ffs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5217 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Hang on though, so he threatened to do this but apparently got the increase in spending he wanted as a result. Due to be 4% of GDP by 2024...? I'm struggling to imagine Putin being thrilled about that tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21602 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Merkel had her fingers crossed behind her back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21602 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Very stable genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30589 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 He hasn’t gotten 4%. He reckons he’s got 2% and will look at 4% in the future. Watching his press conference he’s such a graceless cunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 So the source for this agreement is Donald Trump? Not like he's got form... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5217 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 1 minute ago, ewerk said: He hasn’t gotten 4%. He reckons he’s got 2% and will look at 4% in the future. Watching his press conference he’s such a graceless cunt. Still achieved what he wanted though. And still not something Putin is likely to be thrilled about..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21602 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Why the fuck do we want to double defence spending? What for? Russia isn't a military threat. I'm sure there are better things to ssf pend our money on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30589 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Just now, Rayvin said: Still achieved what he wanted though. And still not something Putin is likely to be thrilled about..? I wouldn’t take his word for it. He doesn’t have a clue how NATO works. He’s claiming that the USA fund 90% of NATO which is entirely untrue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Renton said: Why the fuck do we want to double defence spending? What for? Parades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5217 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Fair enough then. It could also be a pretense for leaving I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30589 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Renton said: Why the fuck do we want to double defence spending? What for? Russia isn't a military threat. I'm sure there are better things to ssf pend our money on. He’s picking an imaginary fight. Because he wants to raise defence spending for the USA in order to please the arms industry doesn’t mean that the rest of the world has to follow suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Are the ROW leaders just biding their time until his first (and only?!) term is over or why are they waiting to tell him to gtfo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30589 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Oh there it is. The US makes the best military equipment. THE BEST! It’s basically a massive sales drive for the arms industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30589 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 1 minute ago, adios said: Are the ROW leaders just biding their time until his first (and only?!) term is over or why are they waiting to tell him to gtfo? They know he’ll be impeached before they have to hit this target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5217 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 1 minute ago, adios said: Are the ROW leaders just biding their time until his first (and only?!) term is over or why are they waiting to tell him to gtfo? This is an interesting one. Will whoever replaces him rein all this shit back in, or will they actually keep a lot of it in place because some of it may legitimately be in US interests? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Giving him enough rope in either case I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Just now, Rayvin said: This is an interesting one. Will whoever replaces him rein all this shit back in, or will they actually keep a lot of it in place because some of it may legitimately be in US interests? I mean, if the next US president is a Republican, who knows? But then we're all going to hell in a fiery jalopy anyway. I'd imagine any sane president is going to spend their first term grovelling and doing whatever anyone says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30589 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Asked about Brexit he tells us about how he won Wisconsin when Reagan didn’t and about his property in Scotland and Ireland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 I don't even know how you can stomach listening to the decrepit, oafish pigman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 He's actually a genius: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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