Alex 35077 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: ha anyone listened to the audio that's come out of the kids separated from their parents? it's absolutely harrowing No and I don't fucking want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35077 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 7 minutes ago, Andrew said: Hes doing great things according to our resident complete twat iirc I think it's just wummery by proxy but maybe not. Unpleasant either way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 6 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: ha anyone listened to the audio that's come out of the kids separated from their parents? it's absolutely harrowing I've been furiously masturbating to it all morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4748 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Alex said: I think it's just wummery by proxy but maybe not. Unpleasant either way I choose to take it at face value, CTs flag is well and truly stuck to brexit, torys, the legitimising of the further right wing and now donald trump, he is literally the biggest cunt I have an actual tie to in some way and should be spoken to and of in such terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35077 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Andrew said: I choose to take it at face value, CTs flag is well and truly stuck to brexit, torys, the legitimising of the further right wing and now donald trump, he is literally the biggest cunt I have an actual tie to in some way and should be spoken to and of in such terms. Edited June 20, 2018 by Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2204 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Trump is a disaster for the US. I don’t know how anybody could pretend otherwise. If he was my president I’d be deeply ashamed of him, what a horrible old prick. And what a bunch of cunts back him up, from sessions the racist elf to that Miller bloke who’d have been right at home in nazi germany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2204 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Putin must be laughing his tits off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4378 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 I saw a bit of Bill Maher the other night where he was suggesting if he does get a second term which is plausible given how solid his base is, he wouldn't be surprised if he tries to abolish the term limits. He also reckoned if he loses or is impeached he won't go quietly and will call upon his base to take to the streets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35077 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Anyone seen that documentary on PBS? I only caught a bit of it (can't remember the name either) but it's about the presidential campaign. In particular the timing of events was crucial to what big stories received the most attention. Obama knew that the Russians had been interfering with the election and that it came with the highest authority, i.e. Putin. They were reticent about going that far in terms of releasing the details because Obama and his advisers were worried about an outgoing Democrat president influencing the election by releasing damaging links between the Republican candidate and foreign intervention from Russia. In the end the story stated that it was impossible that Putin couldn't have known, without actually detailing the proof that that he approved the whole thing (CIA had intercepted various communications showing as much). The story was still a big one though, a foreign state actively trying to influence the outcome of the US presidential election. But here's the thing, the story was released and was just beginning to gain leverage with all the networks when the story about the recording of Trump having the conversation about grabbing women by the crotch etc. also came out. The salacious nature of this almost completely buried the story about Russian influence before it was properly in the public consciousness. Then, when the Trump story was just dying down those heroic freedom fighters at Wikileaks (who weren't at all played by the Russians) started releasing the Russian hackers stuff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35077 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, NJS said: I saw a bit of Bill Maher the other night where he was suggesting if he does get a second term which is plausible given how solid his base is, he wouldn't be surprised if he tries to abolish the term limits. He also reckoned if he loses or is impeached he won't go quietly and will call upon his base to take to the streets. It'll be ugly like, without a doubt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5218 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 19 minutes ago, Alex said: Anyone seen that documentary on PBS? I only caught a bit of it (can't remember the name either) but it's about the presidential campaign. In particular the timing of events was crucial to what big stories received the most attention. Obama knew that the Russians had been interfering with the election and that it came with the highest authority, i.e. Putin. They were reticent about going that far in terms of releasing the details because Obama and his advisers were worried about an outgoing Democrat president influencing the election by releasing damaging links between the Republican candidate and foreign intervention from Russia. In the end the story stated that it was impossible that Putin couldn't have known, without actually detailing the proof that that he approved the whole thing (CIA had intercepted various communications showing as much). The story was still a big one though, a foreign state actively trying to influence the outcome of the US presidential election. But here's the thing, the story was released and was just beginning to gain leverage with all the networks when the story about the recording of Trump having the conversation about grabbing women by the crotch etc. also came out. The salacious nature of this almost completely buried the story about Russian influence before it was properly in the public consciousness. Then, when the Trump story was just dying down those heroic freedom fighters at Wikileaks (who weren't at all played by the Russians) started releasing the Russian hackers stuff. I don't doubt that this is the truth of it. But still, the establishment lost people and Russia just capitalised on it. Our trust in our governments had to be lost first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35077 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, Rayvin said: I don't doubt that this is the truth of it. But still, the establishment lost people and Russia just capitalised on it. Our trust in our governments had to be lost first. Absolutely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2204 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 It would be heartening if enough anti Trump voters mobilised in the mid terms to decimate the GOP seats in congress. Maybe that would dent the cult of personality that is protecting Trump atm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhh_yeah 2964 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Hopefully this is a start to him realizing he has to flip. "As the son of a Polish holocaust survivor, the images and sounds of this family separation policy is heart wrenching,” Cohen wrote. “While I strongly support measures that will secure our porous borders, children should never be used as bargaining chips." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 As the son of a Polish Holocaust survivor maybe he shouldn't have been in bed with such a racist snake in the first place. Pure face-saving exercise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2204 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Yeah I really feel sorry for Cohen now it turns out he has a heart of gold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4748 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jun/21/no-sign-of-north-korea-dismantling-nuclear-weapons-mattis-admits Predicatbly (for most) the NK stuff is all just rhetoric and bluster with no substance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30598 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 Let's give him credit though for stopping the forced separation of families. A policy he started tbf but that's a minor detail. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4748 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 10 minutes ago, ewerk said: Let's give him credit though for stopping the forced separation of families. A policy he started tbf but that's a minor detail. An executive order he didn't need to sign to end a policy the white house said didnt exist (that he himself claimed was a democrat policy) to fix a situation he said only congress could fix. Where asylum seekers are still immediately detained and prosecuted on crossing the border. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4748 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 the sooner we get our cracking deal and can start implementing these policies ourselves the better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44853 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 Seth Abramson (@SethAbramson) Tweeted: RT @SethAbramson: Congratulations, @realDonaldTrump, you made the cover of TIME! You can replace all the fake TIME covers in your propertie… https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1009787610930311168?s=17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44853 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 "Trump was sitting there with his arms crossed, clearly not liking the fact that they were ganging up on him," Bremmer said to the news outlet. "He eventually agreed and said OK, he'll sign it. And at that point, he stood up, put his hand in his pocket, his suit jacket pocket, and he took two Starburst candies out, threw them on the table and said to Merkel, 'Here, Angela. Don't say I never give you anything.' " "The relationship is about as dysfunctional as we've seen between America and its major allies since the trans-Atlantic relationship really started after World War II," Bremmer continued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30598 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 I’m guessing every other G7 leader is just hoping to get on with running the world while hoping he doesn’t fuck things up too badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44853 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 The leader of the free world carries Starburst in his suit jacket pockets FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30598 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 It was Cadbury’s buttons until his sweaty man tits put paid to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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