Dr Gloom 21559 Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 39 minutes ago, ohhh_yeah said: "As an example, they have great beaches," Trump said to reporters. "You see that whenever they're exploding their cannons into the ocean. I said, 'Boy, look at that view. Wouldn't that make a great condo?'" "You could have the best hotels in the world right there," Trump said. "Think of it from a real estate perspective. You have South Korea, you have China, and they own the land in the middle. How bad is that, right? It's great." http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-says-north-korea-beaches-great-place-for-hotels-condos-2018-6 Like I said, utterly bizarre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 4 hours ago, Renton said: Birds of a feather Rim each other Or something. He seems to be really drawn to dictators, he would really fancy being in a similar situation himself iyam. Iirc during the campaign he said something about how Putin didn’t have to deal with bureaucratic red tape and seemed genuinely pissed off that he’d have to deal with it when he became president. He’s also regularly cried about any form of opposition, manipulated the news as much as he possibly can, and intentionally sped bills through the houses to stop the opposition having much chance to read them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4530 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 8 hours ago, ohhh_yeah said: "As an example, they have great beaches," Trump said to reporters. "You see that whenever they're exploding their cannons into the ocean. I said, 'Boy, look at that view. Wouldn't that make a great condo?'" "You could have the best hotels in the world right there," Trump said. "Think of it from a real estate perspective. You have South Korea, you have China, and they own the land in the middle. How bad is that, right? It's great." http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-says-north-korea-beaches-great-place-for-hotels-condos-2018-6 Nowt wrong with that. Just pointing out in his non political style, what N Korea could achieve if they come in from the cold. Sad thing is (and you all know it), you would be having a wankfest if Obama had pulled this off. Its alright for Jeremy to meet with various terrorists to “play his part”, yeah right, in the peace process but not Donald. Hypocrites, the lot of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhh_yeah 2900 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 32 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: Nowt wrong with that. You just took a dump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21559 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 All he pulled off was a handshake with a pariah. All Kim had to do was repeat some meaningless lines he’s issued before. Trump didn’t achieve anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34270 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Trump just the latest odious cunt in CT’s wummery by proxy games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 29771 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 (edited) 10 hours ago, Anorthernsoul said: Edited June 13, 2018 by ewerk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5131 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 2 hours ago, Christmas Tree said: Nowt wrong with that. Just pointing out in his non political style, what N Korea could achieve if they come in from the cold. Sad thing is (and you all know it), you would be having a wankfest if Obama had pulled this off. Its alright for Jeremy to meet with various terrorists to “play his part”, yeah right, in the peace process but not Donald. Hypocrites, the lot of you. Er, hold on. I backed Trump on this with the benefit of the doubt principally because I am not partisan on matters of international peace. I criticised him because if everything is as it seems, this deal achieves fuck all and appears to make a major concession that is not reciprocated. That is my only criticism of Trump and if Obama had struck this deal I would have said the same. I really hope Trump has brought about peace in the Koreas, but based on what we've seen so far, it looks unlikely. If he actually has, i would back him for a Nobel Peace prize. He would certainly be more deserving than Obama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21559 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Punchy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4679 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 8 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Er, hold on. I backed Trump on this with the benefit of the doubt principally because I am not partisan on matters of international peace. I criticised him because if everything is as it seems, this deal achieves fuck all and appears to make a major concession that is not reciprocated. That is my only criticism of Trump and if Obama had struck this deal I would have said the same. I really hope Trump has brought about peace in the Koreas, but based on what we've seen so far, it looks unlikely. If he actually has, i would back him for a Nobel Peace prize. He would certainly be more deserving than Obama. The very reason Obama never did this, as no one else had done either, is that the North Koreans were unwilling, at a level lower than the leaders meeting, would never actually offer anything of substance. Its been well established that none of that level of contact has happened on Trumps watch and that hes just blown in there without any previously established negotiation/agreement and come out offering something for nothing, that achieves fuck all in the grand scheme of things, whilst being pictured thumbs upping a murderous, despicable dictator. No good will come of this in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5131 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 I dunno about that in entirety, the US has maintained a solid position on simply refusing to meet them. Its not all been from Kim. Trump has changed that position. Much of the criticism he is getting centres on the fact that his visit validates the regime. Obama, i think, would not have done this based on that principle alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4679 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, Rayvin said: I dunno about that in entirety, the US has maintained a solid position on simply refusing to meet them. Its not all been from Kim. Trump has changed that position. Much of the criticism he is getting centres on the fact that his visit validates the regime. Obama, i think, would not have done this based on that principle alone. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5131 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Because meeting them validates the regime. http://time.com/5192579/trump-meets-kim-jong-un-north-korea/ It’s not that previous presidents didn’t have the option of meeting with the head of the hermit kingdom. “North Korea has been seeking a summit with an American president for more than twenty years,” Jeffrey Lewis, director of the East Asia Nonproliferation Program at Middlebury Institute of International studies tweeted Thursday night. “It has literally been a top foreign policy goal of Pyongyang since Kim Jong Il invited Bill Clinton.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21559 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 exactly. now the dust has settled on the photo opps and the rambling press conference, it's clear that trump has made big concessions and returned with vague commitments from a vile, pariah regime. WINNING Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5131 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 10 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: exactly. now the dust has settled on the photo opps and the rambling press conference, it's clear that trump has made big concessions and returned with vague commitments from a vile, pariah regime. WINNING If it is as it looks, surely no one can argue that Trump actually makes good deals. This has the potential to make him look exactly as out of his depth as he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 20604 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, Rayvin said: If it is as it looks, surely no one can argue that Trump actually makes good deals. This has the potential to make him look exactly as out of his depth as he is. What?! As a business man maybe (ignoring his inheritance and bankruptcies), but is that translatable into global politics? Is it fuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5131 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Renton said: What?! As a business man maybe (ignoring his inheritance and bankruptcies), but is that translatable into global politics? Is it fuck. I'm not sure you've read it right... I'm not saying that I think this, I'm saying that clearly, SOME people think this. And that those people will struggle to think this once this Korean nonsense is exposed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5131 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 (edited) Surprising defence of Trump by Monbiot: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jun/13/trump-nafta-g7-sunset-clause-trade-agreement The only point I would pick a hole in for his article is that I doubt whether Trump wanted a sunset clause in NAFTA for the reasons Monbiot is ascribing to him. But in fairness, the effect is the same I guess. Edited June 13, 2018 by Rayvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4679 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 How long was it between these? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13673 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 “How bad is that, right? It’s great!” there’s comic poetry in there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21559 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 talk about the fake news media Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Howmanheyman 32095 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 (But, obviously, 'the state of you lot', cough, ahem). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooner 243 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 hehe, i found this amusing. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/finally-a-president-with-the-guts-to-stand-up-to-canada/2018/06/11/474d948c-6db1-11e8-bd50-b80389a4e569_story.html?utm_term=.1d7f829deacb 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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