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If they’ve got any sense, regardless of the grief involved, Trump should receive official censure, removed or impeached without delay; if they don’t he can say till his dieing day that he did nothing wrong because he didn’t receive punishment from the legislature. Next month the feds can make a proper start on him the rest of the clan too.  But he must be seen to have received punishment from the state. 

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7 minutes ago, The Fish said:

Would impeachment preclude him from taking another run at the presidency?

 

Not sure. #Trump2024 is trending at the moment though

 

GOP might have learned their lesson but at ewerk said yesterday they might look at the votes they need and find a cleaner, cleverer more placatory Trump figure...

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19 minutes ago, The Fish said:

Would impeachment preclude him from taking another run at the presidency?

Yes it would EDIT, actually no it wouldn't !!!

 

 

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41 minutes ago, PaddockLad said:

If they’ve got any sense, regardless of the grief involved, Trump should receive official censure, removed or impeached without delay; if they don’t he can say till his firing day that he did nothing wrong because he didn’t receive punishment from the legislature. Next month the feds can make a proper start on him the rest of the clan too.  But he must be seen to have received punishment from the state. 

 

Yeah, they need to send a signal or they can look forward to the same again next election, or worse if the Republicans hold both houses by then. 

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17 minutes ago, The Fish said:

Would impeachment preclude him from taking another run at the presidency?

That would be up to the Senate, it isn't automatic but is something they can do.

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11 minutes ago, PaddockLad said:

 

Not sure. #Trump2024 is trending at the moment though

 

GOP might have learned their lesson but at ewerk said yesterday they might look at the votes they need and find a cleaner, cleverer more placatory Trump figure...

 

There was a twitter thread about Josh Hawley, the little shite hawk senator who was one of those opposing the vote certifications. The bloke writing the thread went to the same super posh twat school in London that Hawley did, and reckons on arrival one of the teachers said "You're not another fascist like Hawley, are you?" 

 

This lad is the real deal, but he's a slick Patrick Bateman type, and not oafish or tactless in the way that Trump is. This is why they need to clamp down on all of them now, Cruz, Hawley, really make it clear that if you get involved in seditious conspiracy, it ends your political career. 

 

Otherwise they'll have to reckon with an emboldened Hawley in 2024.

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11 minutes ago, PaddockLad said:

 

Not sure. #Trump2024 is trending at the moment though

 

GOP might have learned their lesson but at ewerk said yesterday they might look at the votes they need and find a cleaner, cleverer more placatory Trump figure...

 

Just now, ewerk said:

That would be up to the Senate, it isn't automatic but is something they can do.

 

Surely then, the best political strategy is to impeach him now, which takes him out the running for 24 and makes that election much less chaotic, divisive and violent? Then get someone who can appeal to the yeehaws with his heritage (white, southern, plain spoken), but appeal to the moderates with his rhetoric?

 

Surely, if the Republicans let him run again he'll syphon off votes for someone who can actually win the country? Some of those that voted for Trump this time will have been appalled at the attack on the Capitol and his part in it. Obviously some will think it's brilliant, but they are a minority, in the scheme of things.

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1 minute ago, Gemmill said:

 

There was a twitter thread about Josh Hawley, the little shite hawk senator who was one of those opposing the vote certifications. The bloke writing the thread went to the same super posh twat school in London that Hawley did, and reckons on arrival one of the teachers said "You're not another fascist like Hawley, are you?" 

 

This lad is the real deal, but he's a slick Patrick Bateman type, and not oafish or tactless in the way that Trump is. This is why they need to clamp down on all of them now, Cruz, Hawley, really make it clear that if you get involved in seditious conspiracy, it ends your political career. 

 

Otherwise they'll have to reckon with an emboldened Hawley in 2024.

Is Hawley to Trump what Priti Patel is to Johnson?

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7 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

 

There was a twitter thread about Josh Hawley, the little shite hawk senator who was one of those opposing the vote certifications. The bloke writing the thread went to the same super posh twat school in London that Hawley did, and reckons on arrival one of the teachers said "You're not another fascist like Hawley, are you?" 

 

This lad is the real deal, but he's a slick Patrick Bateman type, and not oafish or tactless in the way that Trump is. This is why they need to clamp down on all of them now, Cruz, Hawley, really make it clear that if you get involved in seditious conspiracy, it ends your political career. 

 

Otherwise they'll have to reckon with an emboldened Hawley in 2024.

 

Yeah and I notice that Hawley is completely unrepentant despite being dropped by some corporate he was involved with. 

 

There is another one, a Trump staffer, heavily involved in alt right nonsense, can't think of his name now...

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1 minute ago, PaddockLad said:

 

Yeah and I notice that Hawley is completely unrepentant despite being dropped by some corporate he was involved with. 

 

There is another one, a Trump staffer, heavily involved in alt right nonsense, can't think of his name now...

 

Stephen Miller? Aye Hawley was about to publish a book but Simon and Schuster have pulled it. 

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9 minutes ago, The Fish said:

 

 

Surely then, the best political strategy is to impeach him now, which takes him out the running for 24 and makes that election much less chaotic, divisive and violent? Then get someone who can appeal to the yeehaws with his heritage (white, southern, plain spoken), but appeal to the moderates with his rhetoric?

 

Surely, if the Republicans let him run again he'll syphon off votes for someone who can actually win the country? Some of those that voted for Trump this time will have been appalled at the attack on the Capitol and his part in it. Obviously some will think it's brilliant, but they are a minority, in the scheme of things.

That would be the smart move overall. However, a lot of these Republicans are going to face re-election in the next four years and are they really going to want to be seen to impeach a man who has just gotten 74m votes? 

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1 minute ago, Gemmill said:

Miller strikes me as more of a behind the scenes type. He's balding and weird as fuck so I don't see a presidential run in his future. 

 

Yeah I have no idea about his public office intentions but he has the sort of extremist views that are now prevalent and someone else holding them could  end up with the GOP nomination next time 

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5 hours ago, Kid Dynamite said:

 

Totally normally, maskless party celebrating the President about to go on stage and incite a riot 

He’s so popular, even dead singers hate him. :lol:

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