Renton 24467 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 On 04/11/2020 at 09:56, Rayvin said: I think so. I know Renton finds it objectionable but I really, really believe that no matter the political stripe of a candidate, people are looking for vision. Biden and Hillary offered none of that. Biden 2020 would have lost to trump in 2016 too, I'm pretty certain of that. The only reason he'll win this (I really hope he wins this) is that people have been able to see how dangerous Trump actually is. Expand I've just come to the conclusion Americans are thick as pigshit and will believe any lie Trump feeds them. Biden lost Florida because he was Castro's best mate apparently. Elsewhere you just call him a socialist, as preposterous as that is to us, and the red necks just won't vote for him. I'm struggling to think of who could do a better job than Biden given the current atmosphere tbh. Not Sanders, I guarantee that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 24249 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 (edited) On 04/11/2020 at 09:59, The Fish said: Democrats don't seem to have learned that it's not about policy, it's personality now. They needed an Obama, someone that would excite the base and be palatable to the others. Instead they've gone for Boring Biden. Democracy has jumped the shark now. Expand warren and sanders would have excited the base but i suspect they wouldn't have been palatable in a country where socialsim is a dirty word - some states have rejected biden because they're scared he's a socialist ffs. the senile granddad was the safest pair of hands. the left in america will still vote for him. Edited November 4, 2020 by Dr Gloom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11410 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 On 04/11/2020 at 10:02, Renton said: I've just come to the conclusion Americans are thick as pigshit and will believe any lie Trump feeds them. Biden lost Florida because he was Castro's best mate apparently. Elsewhere you just call him a socialist, as preposterous as that is to us, and the red necks just won't vote for him. I'm struggling to think of who could do a better job than Biden given the current atmosphere tbh. Not Sanders, I guarantee that. Expand Thisw is it for me, politicians have cottoned onto the gullibility of the populace. Say any old shit and people will believe it, if it aligns with their prejudice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 46402 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Getting ahead of things here a bit, but if Trump does lose, which do you think will happen first; New York put him on trial His sperm germination trophy divorces him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11410 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 On 04/11/2020 at 10:04, Monkeys Fist said: Getting ahead of things here a bit, but if Trump does lose, which do you think will happen first; New York put him on trial His sperm germination trophy divorces him? Expand Which one, there appears to be a new 'Melania' every photo-op. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 24249 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 24249 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 wisconsin and michigan both look as tight as a gnat's chuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 34193 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 On 04/11/2020 at 09:59, Dr Gloom said: if you take covid out of the picture, trump hammers biden. and i'm afraid to say he hammers warren and sanders too. america doesn't want their vision. Expand I wonder how much Biden’s inability to campaign has had an effect on his vote. He’s basically had no large rallies to excite people in person or on TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 6438 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 On 04/11/2020 at 09:59, Dr Gloom said: if you take covid out of the picture, trump hammers biden. and i'm afraid to say he hammers warren and sanders too. america doesn't want their vision. Expand Aye this time around but last time I'm convinced Sanders would have won it. Too much well poisoning this time for any real progressive candidate to make inroads. Same as over here really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 16790 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 On 04/11/2020 at 10:13, ewerk said: I wonder how much Biden’s inability to campaign has had an effect on his vote. He’s basically had no large rallies to excite people in person or on TV. Expand I was thinking the same, the whole "backing a winner" mentality and all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 24249 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 On 04/11/2020 at 10:14, Rayvin said: Aye this time around but last time I'm convinced Sanders would have won it. Too much well poisoning this time for any real progressive candidate to make inroads. Same as over here really. Expand trump v sanders in 2016 - yeah that would have been an interesting fight. trump may have struggled to take all the mid west states, but you can't underestimate just how scared yanks are by the word socialism. it's the antithesis of the american dream. it's why the dems always go for safe, centrist nominees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rayvin 6438 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 On 04/11/2020 at 10:18, Dr Gloom said: trump v sanders in 2016 - yeah that would have been an interesting fight. trump may have struggled to take all the mid west states, but you can't underestimate just how scared yanks are by the word socialism. it's the antithesis of the american dream. it's why the dems always go for safe, centrist nominees. Expand Maybe so, but they don't look that safe to me based on this evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 6438 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 The race stands at 238 electoral votes for Biden to 213 for Trump, with six battleground states outstanding. If Biden can hang on to a narrow lead in Nevada, and seal the deal in Wisconsin, any additional state – North Carolina (15 electoral votes), Georgia (16), Michigan (16) or Pennsylvania (20) – brings him victory. /Guardian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 24249 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 On 04/11/2020 at 10:26, Rayvin said: The race stands at 238 electoral votes for Biden to 213 for Trump, with six battleground states outstanding. If Biden can hang on to a narrow lead in Nevada, and seal the deal in Wisconsin, any additional state – North Carolina (15 electoral votes), Georgia (16), Michigan (16) or Pennsylvania (20) – brings him victory. /Guardian Expand it could hinge on nevada, where biden's lead is narrowing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 24249 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 fucking hell, down to 9k in nevada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 6438 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 On 04/11/2020 at 10:31, Dr Gloom said: it could hinge on nevada, where biden's lead is narrowing. Expand It's actually possible apparently that they draw level. What happens then? Penalties? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 24249 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 duel with assault rifles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 6438 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 The American way. I can't believe how close this is mind, for all that Biden could make it look clear cut in the end by picking up all these swing states, that would mask how close to absolute tragedy we have come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 46402 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 On 04/11/2020 at 10:06, Dr Gloom said: Expand Thought that must be a parody account or something. Nope. What a cunt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 46402 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 On 04/11/2020 at 10:34, Dr Gloom said: duel with assault rifles? Expand Water drinking contest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 24467 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 On 04/11/2020 at 10:47, Monkeys Fist said: What a cunt. Expand There you go again, obsessed! In fairness I believe she is innocent but that is one horrendous insensitive tweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 10732 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Welcome to the planet of apes, because those are the ones who have taken over mankind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 46402 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 But we are apes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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