Howmanheyman 33251 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 14 minutes ago, PaddockLad said: It would disqualify you from most jobs tbh Spouting bollocks like that would get you a promotion into management where I work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 He has commendably just signed the US up to the program to plant 1tn trees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9780 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 8 hours ago, Howmanheyman said: Spouting bollocks like that would get you a promotion into management where I work. And angry rants from wykiki on online message boards where he works... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42459 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 7 hours ago, Rayvin said: He has commendably just signed the US up to the program to plant 1tn trees. Only because his staff disguised it as a burger order for his Tuesday Treat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9780 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 At least one person with cojones. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry/full-text-romney-s-speech-why-he-ll-vote-convict-n1130936 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Acquitted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44901 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Aye. As recently as 10 years ago that would have been the end of the Republican Party. Now you can do what you want as long as you tell people on Facebook that you're doing something different. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17281 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Just how are the republicans justifying this to the wider world outside of brain dead rednecks again? Or are they just not bothering? 🤔 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Nothing matters anymore. People are too partisan, to emotionally invested in their side of this bloody culture war that it just doesn't matter. We just have to hope they put it right in November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9780 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 "When you’re a Republican, they let you do it. You can do anything." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15548 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 25 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Nothing matters anymore. People are too partisan, to emotionally invested in their side of this bloody culture war that it just doesn't matter. We just have to hope they put it right in November. "They" being America's centrists. Let's hope for a candidate who actually appeals to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44901 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 This bloke is the leader of the party and he's treating it all like a big joke. All the Trump lot will just think he's owning the libs or some shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4386 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 30 minutes ago, Meenzer said: "They" being America's centrists. Let's hope for a candidate who actually appeals to them. A socialist, a gay vacuum, a beige corporate shrill or Warren who seems okay but I don't enough about to define - what could go wrong? Using my West Wing knowledge I reckon Bloomberg will try and buy the conference with the backing of the DNC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Meenzer said: "They" being America's centrists. Let's hope for a candidate who actually appeals to them. As ever, I'm hoping for Bernie Sanders. I assume you prefer the guy who no one seems to care for very much who is only running because he was the second to a greater man, or the other guy who was involved in the development of an app which appears to have obfuscated an electoral process, and who has received fewer votes than Sanders, but who has somehow come out ahead. I think you're safe. The democrats will choose the unthreatening option irrespective of what the membership wants. And then we just have to hope that all the young people that such shithousery deters, aren't refusing to vote in sufficient numbers that Trump wins. I do concede he would be more palatable to the centrists though Well, I think so. I haven't actually seen any data on that. Edited February 6, 2020 by Rayvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3898 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, Rayvin said: As ever, I'm hoping for Bernie Sanders. I assume you prefer the guy who no one seems to care for very much who is only running because he was the second to a greater man, or the other guy who was involved in the development of an app which appears to have obfuscated an electoral process, and who has received fewer votes than Sanders, but who has somehow come out ahead. I think you're safe. The democrats will choose the unthreatening option irrespective of what the membership wants. And then we just have to hope that all the young people that such shithousery deters, aren't refusing to vote in sufficient numbers that Trump wins. I do concede he would be more palatable to the centrists though Well, I think so. I haven't actually seen any data on that. Bernie Sanders can’t win and would not be able to sufficiently guarantee he could last a whole term without dying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4386 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Having said all that a lot of polls suggest Sanders would be the best bet against Trump - but that's now before the campaign really starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Kevin Carr's Gloves said: Bernie Sanders can’t win and would not be able to sufficiently guarantee he could last a whole term without dying. I agree with the last bit in theory, haven't seen any evidence to support the first bit myself - plenty of evidence last time out that he would have beaten Trump but I do concede the picture has changed now. And I'm not saying he should win. I'm just not especially impressed by the determination of the establishment democrats to shithouse their way to someone that they "think" can win. Ultimately I'll take anyone who isn't Trump - but a non-Sanders candidate who wins through the non-transparent machinations of the Democrats won't win either. If they want their centrist hero to win, he (or she, not sure where Warren places on the spectrum) has to win it fairly. If they don't, Trump will destroy them - partially because people who think like me will just give them the finger. Partially because it will make them look more corrupt than he is. Edited February 6, 2020 by Rayvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30620 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 I too would like to offer a strong opinion on a subject on which I am not well versed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 1 minute ago, ewerk said: I too would like to offer a strong opinion on a subject on which I am not well versed. The strong opinion I put forward = the Democrats will lose if they fuck around with the electoral process and disenfranchise large numbers of left wing voters in the process. I actually do feel I know a fair amount about that particular issue Or are you thinking I'm making a strong case for Sanders. If so, you misread. I said I hoped for him. Is that too strong? I have a slight tendency towards him. Still too much? Gun to my head, if really forced to answer, I think that maybe, I could possibly get away with thinking that overall, all things considered to the best of my ability, that Sanders is possibly, at least in the current lay of the land, the right person to go up against Trump. I think that's the best I can do ewerk. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30620 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 (edited) I love how I make a flippant remark aimed at no one in particular and you lose your shit. Never change, Rayvin. Edited February 6, 2020 by ewerk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Fair enough. I've just missed railing about politics for a couple of weeks and am now over-eager Although I have to concede, there's a general world-weariness in me about all these things now. I fully expect Trump to win this no matter who he goes up against, because the world just sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4386 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 21 minutes ago, Rayvin said: I agree with the last bit in theory, haven't seen any evidence to support the first bit myself - plenty of evidence last time out that he would have beaten Trump but I do concede the picture has changed now. And I'm not saying he should win. I'm just not especially impressed by the determination of the establishment democrats to shithouse their way to someone that they "think" can win. Ultimately I'll take anyone who isn't Trump - but a non-Sanders candidate who wins through the non-transparent machinations of the Democrats won't win either. If they want their centrist hero to win, he (or she, not sure where Warren places on the spectrum) has to win it fairly. If they don't, Trump will destroy them - partially because people who think like me will just give them the finger. Partially because it will make them look more corrupt than he is. Warren is considered to the left of everyone apart from Sanders but she's faded in the primary polls from her best position a couple of months ago. Obviously I'd prefer Sanders but realistically the next best is Warren. As I said I wouldn't be surprised if Bloomberg gets it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30620 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Personally I'd like to see Warren win the nomination. She's got the socialist credentials seemingly without the scare fact that Sanders carries. She's smart and sharp and I think would be the most dangerous to Trump. Biden would be a disaster. Bloomberg would draw a lot of votes away from Trump but he's one of those dreaded centrists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15548 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 43 minutes ago, Rayvin said: As ever, I'm hoping for Bernie Sanders. I assume you prefer the guy who no one seems to care for very much who is only running because he was the second to a greater man, or the other guy who was involved in the development of an app which appears to have obfuscated an electoral process, and who has received fewer votes than Sanders, but who has somehow come out ahead. I think you're safe. The democrats will choose the unthreatening option irrespective of what the membership wants. And then we just have to hope that all the young people that such shithousery deters, aren't refusing to vote in sufficient numbers that Trump wins. I do concede he would be more palatable to the centrists though Well, I think so. I haven't actually seen any data on that. I don't have any particular preference at all and I don't understand why you assume I would, nor do I know to whom you're obliquely referring in most of the above. It's just fairly obvious that the middle ground is where this election will be won, given the many inherent weaknesses of the US system. If you're willing to alienate the swing-state soccer moms right from the get-go, you deserve to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, Meenzer said: I don't have any particular preference at all and I don't understand why you assume I would, nor do I know to whom you're obliquely referring in most of the above. It's just fairly obvious that the middle ground is where this election will be won, given the many inherent weaknesses of the US system. If you're willing to alienate the swing-state soccer moms right from the get-go, you deserve to lose. Let us indeed hope for someone who can appeal to the swing-state soccer moms then. But if you fuck around with your electoral process and make it non-transparent and disenfranchising... I mean, you also deserve to lose. I'm gonna add that Clinton should have appealed to those swing-state soccer moms last time. What happened there? 55% of white women voted for Trump. Whoops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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