acrossthepond 877 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 11 hours ago, Howay said: Agreed, it’s definitely an angle they should push. He’s costing me tax money and time the fucking whopper. The worrying part of the Dems is Hillary is back doing all of the late night talk shows and making other appearances, it’s fairly transparent she’s gearing up for another attempt I just hope the Dems don’t push her like they have in the past especially as even when I agree with what she is saying about some of the shadier aspects of her loss to Trump it still comes across as whinging. Mrs ATP and I were discussing this over the past couple of days. Hillary is utter poison for the Democratic Party. They lost the election because of her awful campaign. The longer she hangs around in the background rattling chains and doing spooky moans about Russia, the worse it is for the party. Like all ghosts she needs to move on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 7 minutes ago, acrossthepond said: Mrs ATP and I were discussing this over the past couple of days. Hillary is utter poison for the Democratic Party. They lost the election because of her awful campaign. The longer she hangs around in the background rattling chains and doing spooky moans about Russia, the worse it is for the party. Like all ghosts she needs to move on. Completely agree. They have to wake up and realize the feeling of “it’s just her time” isn’t going to win an election and the longer she hangs about the more chance she has of putting off any younger/fresher/better candidates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5220 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 This is true but Trump is doing such a bad job that she might actually win it next time. A depressing thought given that the only benefit to Trump was that the democrats may come up with someone radical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4379 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Have to hope she's reverted to type and is just flogging her book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15525 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Hillary standing again would give Trump the best possible chance of a second term. But there is a notable vacuum at the top of the Democratic tree and that's something they need to deal with - there's been no unified voice coming out and condemning the Trump administration so far (partly because the nearest contender to HRC for the most recent nomination is someone just as old and implausible as a future president, rather than a new pretender who was narrowly defeated by a more experienced old hand and who could naturally step up now). I suppose they might be doing a Labour on Brexit and just sitting back and letting the whole thing implode rather than playing their hand too early, but I think more than anything, they're still absolutely in shock and don't know how to deal with what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5220 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Meenzer said: Hillary standing again would give Trump the best possible chance of a second term. But there is a notable vacuum at the top of the Democratic tree and that's something they need to deal with - there's been no unified voice coming out and condemning the Trump administration so far (partly because the nearest contender to HRC for the most recent nomination is someone just as old and implausible as a future president, rather than a new pretender who was narrowly defeated by a more experienced old hand). I suppose they might be doing a Labour on Brexit and just sitting back and letting the whole thing implode rather than playing their hand too early, but I think more than anything, they're still absolutely in shock and don't know how to deal with what happened. Yeah this is a good bit of analysis. I had hoped that Elizabeth Warren might come to the forefront but she doesn't appear to be positioning herself for it as of yet. Sanders is too old to go again IMO. There is a grassroots movement within the Democrats that is trying to take hold, but it may be a bridge too far them to hold any influence ahead of the next election cycle. They might have to settle for getting certain policies on the agenda, rather than wholesale change. Still though, you'd have to think that by the end of this, hard right politics will have been shown to have failed demonstrably - you'd think they'd be crying out for the back of Trump. Just wish there was a credible left wing alternative in place to swoop in and clear up - but there's not, so back to the centre we'll go. Edited September 26, 2017 by Rayvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30602 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Hillary won't run again, she knows that she's done. A lot of people simply don't like her. It's a bit early yet for the contenders to start jockeying for position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15525 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 One of the problems with the system I suppose. No actual voice of opposition until campaign $ea$on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30602 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Apart from Bernie. TBF to him he just kept on campaigning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Corey Booker is one of the Dems that seems to be being set up/positioned for a run at the presidency one day, but other than that aye there’s no one really. I think the way Hilary quickly dropped all the issues she was raising during her campaign after she lost the election is also something people take umbrage with. I hope it is all just something like her flogging a book, I hope it all ends mind as having her ranting on on the Telly at 6:30 in the morning is a bit grim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 https://news.vice.com/story/the-trump-administration-wants-being-gay-to-be-a-fireable-offense?utm_source=vicefbus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhh_yeah 2964 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 On 9/25/2017 at 1:35 AM, ewerk said: The comparison of his comments about the 'sons of bitches' in the NFL and the 'fine people' at Charlottesville says all you need to know about him. He's appealing to the lowest common denominator because it's so easy to do. This Lt. General should give him tips on how to accurately give a speech. This is a result after racist slurs were used in the dorms. "Get out!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30602 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5220 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Good grief. Well played by the prankster though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7025 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Then 8 hours later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhh_yeah 2964 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 The mayor of San Juan! Meanwhile he was screeching, "Fore!". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30602 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Finally goes to Puerto Rico and tells them it wasn’t ‘a real catastrophe like Katrina’. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44864 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 He's been saying that "what happened in Vegas was really a sort of miracle" too. He's a mad old cunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhh_yeah 2964 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 3 hours ago, ewerk said: Finally goes to Puerto Rico and tells them it wasn’t ‘a real catastrophe like Katrina’. He was throwing rolls of paper towels out to the crowd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5220 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Yeah it's the start of that speech that really gets me tbh. "I hate to tell you Puerto rico..." as if that's something they should be ashamed of and which they are directly responsible for. He is such a hopeless human being. That fuck he seems to be as ineffectual as he is incompetent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhh_yeah 2964 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Marilyn Manson's new track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15525 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Disappointed it wasn't "Stage Props Keep Falling On My Head". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30602 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30602 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 The US Dept of Commerce season added a further 80% tariff on top of the 220% tariff earlier announced on Bombardier planes. Looks like Theresa May’s begging fell on deaf ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizza 105 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/916750042014404608 https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/916751271960436737 How many more times are Twitter going to let him threaten war with other countries on their site before they ban him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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