Park Life 71 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Why? Why would they think at all that they're going to be under threat of a nuclear strike? The only way I see nukes coming into it is if the US have literally invaded Russia and are about to take the Kremlin. I mean, are you guys all tapped into Russian high command or something If Russia goes nuclear, the only thing it guarantees is it's own annihilation. The US can shoot down something like 60% of their missiles in mid-air, so they'd literally have to fire everything they've got. And you are suggesting that they might do this based on a conflict in a totally different country? Russia is facing a slow annihilation already. It is a country that knows what it is to lose half its population. If they lose in Syria and those pipelines from the Gulf bring gas and oil into Europe the Russian economy will collapse. Chelsea will be relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21627 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Why? Given the 'mutually assured destruction' component here, why would Putin decide to tank his entire country just because he lost a ground conflict in Syria? Either Russia or the US losing a direct conflict with their former superpower enemy is unthinkable. It'd be Armageddon. That's you, me, and all our families dead within minutes, hours, days, or months. We've come very close to this position once before, the Cuban missile crisis. People were shitting themselves then, ARS. Seems people now have already forgotten the relatively recent past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Russia is facing a slow annihilation already. It is a country that knows what it is to lose half its population. If they lose in Syria and those pipelines from the Gulf bring gas and oil into Europe the Russian economy will collapse. Chelsea will be relegated. Well yes but this is kind of what I mean about this problem lasting for much longer than Trump. To be honest you've been right on the money through this, it seems that irrespective of the administration, the US has a constant stance of provocation towards Russia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 (edited) Either Russia or the US losing a direct conflict with their former superpower enemy is unthinkable. It'd be Armageddon. That's you, me, and all our families dead within minutes, hours, days, or months. We've come very close to this position once before, the Cuban missile crisis. People were shitting themselves then, ARS. Seems people now have already forgotten the relatively recent past. In order to educate myself, I just looked into the respective nuclear capabilities of the two. Russia apparently has the doomsday weapons; the US response, while assuring destruction, are designed to cause much less significant damage. Russian nukes sound horrifying, the US ones sound tactical. As such, I'm not entirely convinced we'd all die. But again, I don't think it's even remotely likely that this is going to happen, as no one is talking about invasions of either country, and I genuinely don't think either Trump or Putin is about to go nuclear over fucking Syria. EDIT - this isn't the cold war. It isn't a battle of ideologies. It's two countries trying to make their way in the world. Edited April 12, 2017 by Rayvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21924 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 America have the best weapons. They're beautiful, incredible weapons by the way. Believe me [tweet] [/tweet] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhh_yeah 2967 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Is Donald Trump Making America Hate Golf Again? by Dylan Dethier The Masters wrapped in dramatic fashion on Sunday, with Sergio Garcia taking home the green jacket in a sudden-death playoff. But it’s worth noting that three of the nation's biggest golfers didn't tee off when the tournament began on Thursday. Tiger Woods, unable to practice, announced his absence a week prior. World-ranking No. 1 Dustin Johnson slipped on the stairs of his rental home the day before and was forced to withdraw on the very first tee. And the most famous golfer of them all, President Trump, announced that his Thursday hosting of Chinese President Xi Jinping at Mar-a-Lago would involve no fairway diplomacy. China’s Communist Party, citing the game as a symbol of capitalist excesses and corruption, holds a longstanding scorn for golf—in 1949, Mao Zedong declared it the “sport for millionaires.” Xi’s disdain for the game echoes the sentiments that many share of our new president’s extremely pricey biweekly excursions to Florida. Of all the ways in which our inexperienced president should be spending his hours and his taxpayer money…golf?! In turns, he's taken a beating from news outlets, late night hosts, and Twitter users alike—much of it from the left but plenty from his supporters, too, who grow frustrated with the appearance of inaction. It raises the question: has Trump made America hate golf again? You could say that America has always hated golf—country clubs have been targets of disdain since their inception, and their exclusivity makes it rather easy. Augusta National is the sport’s nirvana but also the most obvious target for criticism: it’s situated firmly in slave country yet hosts a tournament called “The Masters,” and didn’t admit a black member until 1990—or a female member until 2012. (2012!) Anti-Augusta sentiment has been tempered somewhat in the years since the 1997 Masters, when a fiery, red-shirted, multi-racial Tiger Woods fist-pumped his way to his first major championship at age 21. Tiger as the face of golf signaled a major shift for the game. He was athletic, young, inspiring, hard-working, and a self-described “Cablinasian.” Though it didn't mitigate the transgressions of the sport’s exclusive, elitist history, it soothed their sting. The joy in watching him win was amplified by the fact that he was doing so in spite of a game whose institutions would have turned him away for so many years. But Tiger is gone now (no, not officially, but effectively, having played one PGA tour event since 2015), and Trump’s ascendency to the status of golfer-in-chief comes at a time when the sport is still struggling from the vacuum he left behind (though the PGA Tour boasts an impressive roster of young talent—Jordan Spieth, Rory McIlroy, Rickie Fowler, Jason Day—none can or will approach Tiger’s transcendent star power). Golf’s important numbers are all in decline: TV ratings, player participation, total courses. An increasingly unpopular president is playing an increasingly unpopular sport. The cost and hypocrisy of Trump’s outings—Trump was among the most outspoken critics of Obama’s trips to the golf course, yet spends millions in taxpayer money every Mar-a-Lago weekend—are easy targets; every golf critic will tell you that the game takes too long and costs too much money. But perhaps Trump’s decriers are most incensed by his reinforcement of a third stereotype: that golf is the exclusive domain of the rich, white, and powerful—those who have always made the deals, but don’t have to live with their real-world consequences outside the country club walls. To his supporters, President Obama’s rounds seemed like another class and race barrier broken by the most powerful black man in history. Trump’s rounds, on the other hand, embody each disparagement of the game, and the surrounding conversation has ripped the Tiger blanket off golf’s problems, re-exposing old wounds. Trump ran as a populist. He positioned himself antithetical to the club of elites the Clintons belonged to (all while living in his own marble tower in midtown Manhattan). He defied and denounced political correctness, and promised candor and honesty. He was all in on the resurgence of West Virginia’s mines and Michigan’s manufacturing. His rounds feel like a betrayal: they benefit his own properties, he mingles only with those who have paid to join his clubs, and he’s escaping during a time of near-crisis for his young administration. That he campaigned on coal yet governs while golfing is an easy criticism to lob, and, inevitably, some of that outrage has rubbed off on the game itself. With the President now serving as the most famous golfer in the country, it makes sense the sport faces renewed criticism, the same type leveled by the party of President Xi: that golf, like government, continues to look like a game only for millionaires and crooks. On Saturday, as the tournament leaders teed off at Augusta, with President Xi headed back to China and Syrian airstrikes dominating headlines, Trump headed to familiar turf: Trump International Golf Club. I spent two years playing (mediocre) professional golf; I’ve seen courses at every corner of the U.S. and most of Canada. I spent a winter living in West Palm Beach, too; I worked and practiced at a private club not far from Mar-a-Lago. And yet my single trip to Trump International is seared in my memory—I’ve never been treated as so important, nor seen a practice area so impeccably manicured, nor hit into a backdrop as gaudy as the waterfall behind the 17th green. The clubhouse was a Floridian palace, littered with pictures of its founder. But most shocking of all was the trophy case at the end of the hall, showcasing the amateur course record: 66, held by Trump. A caddy accompanied our group, and I couldn’t wait to ask him: Was Trump really that good a golfer? "Oh, yeah, man," he told me. "He’s a good player, and a fun guy to be with, too. Plus a big tipper." "Did he shoot 66 here?" He laughed. “You saw that, huh? Look, he’s a good player. And he never gets a bad lie, if I’m with him. But 66? Not a chance." He paused. "Just don’t tell him I told you that." http://www.gq.com/story/donald-trump-golf-backlash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 America have the best weapons. They're beautiful, incredible weapons by the way. Believe me [tweet] https://twitter.com/foxbusiness/status/852135930831843329[/tweet] Slightly more worrying that he thought that he'd sent 59 missiles towards Iraq. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21924 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 He did not like being corrected on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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adios 717 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Makes me feel all warm and cosy knowing we are safe in Trump's hands. Twitter "diplomacy" ffs. Is this really the future? No, it's somehow the present. Any reason not to have China envelop NK? They can somewhat buffer the US military border and it wouldn't take such a hit to their economy. South Korea wouldn't be thrilled, but it might be the most palatable option overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhh_yeah 2967 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Wandrille Lefevre, a defender for the Montreal Impact, has been suspended for posting this. "Since Donald is in power, better safe than sorry” in French. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhh_yeah 2967 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Mike Sarimsakci aka the Turkish Trump, on Tuesday told Dallas City Hall the Trump Organization's new Scion line of luxury hotels has failed. A previous effort to build a Scion hotel in St. Louis also failed after residents protested a $20 million tax break the city was considering for the project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 In Trump's latest flip flops, the Chinese are no longer currency manipulators and NATO are a great bunch of lads altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 After ten minutes of basic background on China/Korea and suddenly he's changed his mind yet again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21924 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 How is this moron in office? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35083 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 America have the best weapons. They're beautiful, incredible weapons by the way. Believe me [tweet] [/tweet] Unmanned missiles? Whatever next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21924 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 god, it's such a cringeworthy, fawning interview. when did you tell him, giggle, before dessert? did you want to remind him who the world's superpower still is? you wouldn't believe how many people have asked me, but i have to tell you, you've been so good to me. puke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3894 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 In Trump's latest flip flops, the Chinese are no longer currency manipulators and NATO are a great bunch of lads altogether. The Chinese are no longer currency manipulators and NATO are a great bunch of lads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken 119 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 China preparing for something to go down. Reported by a South Korean news agency that China has amassed 150,000 troops on its border with NK. Millions of North Koreans will look to cross the border into China if the shit hits the fan - and that is something China does not want. Syria's mass refugee exodus would pale into insignificance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken 119 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 They won't need a missile for SK. They will drop their 2 nukes from planes. They can't fight the American fleet obviously. NK do not require nukes to destroy Seoul. They have 10 000 artillery pieces aimed at SK's capital which would do the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhh_yeah 2967 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Dropped a MOAB in Nangarhar, Afghanistan. First ever combat use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Nothing says tiny dick like dropping one of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 He can hammer away at ISIS targets for all I care. Most of Pakistan and Afghanistan will probably be grateful. Where's Aimaad these days btw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21924 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 There's a thread for that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 I don't think it's quite time to list him as MIA just yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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