Rayvin 5219 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 For claeity, is it still the Tories being negligent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 It's what makes the current issue so difficult. If support was available, we'd just pay £5.5m now and get a patch. Microsoft aren't supporting XP anywhere at any cost and will not patch. NHS using it at risk for 2 years fully aware of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4748 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Them and MS and the NSA I believe. Something that relies on computer systems to literally keep people alive should never be running on software thats out of support, this should never have been a problem for many reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, Rayvin said: For claeity, is it still the Tories being negligent? Probably. Debatable whether the ask got to Hunt's desk or NHS execs made the decision due to budget cuts.... Which would ultimately be Tories too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30598 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 When money is tight investment in IT is going to be one of the first things to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4748 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 1 minute ago, ewerk said: When money is tight investment in IT is going to be one of the first things to go. Yep, and look where that gets you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 XP was really fast tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30598 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 It's also still being used in Trident subs. Nothing to worry about there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 @Rayvin Private eye suggested it was a definite pre-election decision to kick the can down the road when the reported back in 2014... https://mobile.twitter.com/SaHreports/status/863327116762505216 So I think it's reasonable to pin it fairly and squarely on them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonatine 11374 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 7 hours ago, ewerk said: When money is tight investment in IT is going to be one of the first things to go. Which is a ludicrous position in this day and age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7025 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 23 hours ago, Happy Face said: It's what makes the current issue so difficult. If support was available, we'd just pay £5.5m now and get a patch. Microsoft aren't supporting XP anywhere at any cost and will not patch. NHS using it at risk for 2 years fully aware of that. Theres not a day goes by I don't get a warning flash up on my computer saying 'this is not an official copy of windows' or 'the webpage you are viewing is not compatible with your version of windows'. I think we are the only business that still uses fax machines daily too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4378 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 Priorities - they're investing what is probably billions in GCQQ and the need to record everone's browser history but can't spare the money to protect patient's data and prevent actions which actually result in fucking A&E units shutting down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 We get big grants off the US to upgrade GCHQ and share all our citizens data, and that of their own citizens, with then though. It is somewhat ironic that the US built the snooping tools that have jeopardised our healthcare while funding our own snooping they claim to "keep us safe". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 (edited) I imagine deep down they want to destroy our free healthcare. There is a ratio apparently about how much data you gather and the efficiency of analysis. The more data they gather the cloudier the picture gets. A friend who works inside the dark corridors told me they passed that point about 15 years ago and it would actually make more sense now to start wiping data. Edited May 14, 2017 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 https://mobile.twitter.com/benwizner/status/863870867394236416 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7025 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 The green ones are the only wards with safe staffing levels btw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44853 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 that bloke is a thick as shit middle manager. Ten a penny in any business across the UK and he's apparently cream of the Tory crop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35077 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Fucking hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted August 5, 2018 Author Share Posted August 5, 2018 https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/aug/05/virgin-awarded-almost-2bn-of-nhs-contracts-in-the-past-five-years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7025 Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 Selling off contracts to the lowest bidder is so fucking backwards. It almost always results in them doing a bad job as they cut corners to save money. Usually end up needing bailed out within 12 months https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11334809/Company-running-only-private-NHS-hospital-pulls-out-of-contract-amid-AandE-crisis-and-complaints-of-abuse.html https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-44956180 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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