Alex 35063 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 I find neither offensive in the slightest, I come from a generation where name calling was laughed off. I was taking the piss you halfwit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 2977 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Well I think it's wrong tabbouleh people because of where they're from. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4378 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 No appeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 "Couscous cunt" Fucking classic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Honestly, anyone on twitter get to Toms and have a look at the "journalist" who reported the cous cous nonce thing as real before being corrected and claiming it was a piece of "fake news" perpetrated by Banter Fans rather than showing any contrition for not bothering to check his sources. Yep. What a prick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7025 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 So it was 'Arab Prick/Cunt' Shelvey is alleged to have said in response to someone calling him a 'bald cunt' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21912 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 I honestly don't see what the big deal is if that's true. If he's called him a towel heeded terrorist or something, then fair play. But shelvey has got just as much right to take offence as part of the bald community. PC gone mad etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 7295 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Aye, he has just as much control over being bald as whomever else has control over their nationality. If you're calling him a bald cunt you're implying that being bald is inferior to having hair, if you're calling him an Arab cunt you're implying that Arab's are inferior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5217 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 I honestly don't see what the big deal is if that's true. If he's called him a towel heeded terrorist or something, then fair play. But shelvey has got just as much right to take offence as part of the bald community. PC gone mad etc Identity politics deals in privilege and privilege is stackable. White privilege trumps hair privilege. He was always going to come off worse there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35063 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 But Jonjo is an Irish name and, as everybody knows, the Irish are the blacks of Europe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21912 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Even the darkies look down on the paddies tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21912 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Though the yids are at the bottom of the pile, obvs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42387 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 They both called each other cunts, which is blatant and overt genitalism, and trumps racism and baldism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7025 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 I've got more of an issue with him calling one of the players a peasant. Apparently this is a 'thing' in football if your salary is much higher than another players. That just makes him look like a small time charver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21912 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 i think you'll find we top the polls for being the people everyone loves, you lads though...not so much That's what we say to your face at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 (edited) So it seems the only evidence really was 3 Wolves players saying he made reference to Saiss as an "arab", "arabic" and/or "Morrocan" with an expletive in there somewhere, not exactly compelling iyam, "In addition the panel said the evidence of the three main witnesses from Wolves was "clearly to be preferred" " it just seems a bit fucking soft to me to ban a bloke for 5 games when the only evidence is 3 players from the opposition saying he did it. Nowt can be done now anyway since Shelvey isn't appealing (I agree with him even if he didn't say what is accused as there's no way they'd overturn it if they were willing to ban him on that sort of evidence), at least it means he's available for Brighton. Edited December 23, 2016 by Howay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30569 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Sounded like the witnesses on Shelvey's side weren't terribly well prepared for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Sounded like the witnesses on Shelvey's side weren't terribly well prepared for it. Yeah seems like Gayle said Shelvey reacted to Saiss waving his hand to get him booked then Shelvey said he didn't notice or something. I still think it's a bit much banning someone on the evidence of 3 opposition players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30569 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 The fact though that Shelvey's evidence doesn't tally up with the video evidence is poor. The club's lawyers should've put him over it several times and cross referenced it with the video evidence that would've been freely available to check for inconsistencies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5217 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 All that said, if he committed the act then the minimum is 5 games. He was stupid to risk it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 (edited) The fact though that Shelvey's evidence doesn't tally up with the video evidence is poor. The club's lawyers should've put him over it several times and cross referenced it with the video evidence that would've been freely available to check for inconsistencies. They may well have but I don't think it's a stretch to assume Shelvey is a bit thick and fucked it up. Edited December 23, 2016 by Howay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jintsay 2 Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 In the Wolves players' statements, one said that Shelvey pursued Saiss calling out his number "27,27" as he had his back turned and wasn't turning round. Shelvey countered this with the fact that he was unable to pronounce the guy's name, so didn't say it, but would have been more likely to have said "Oye" to get Saiss' attention rather than his number. He also mentioned that he thought someone who couldn't speak English had managed to abuse him with a well formed anti-alopecia vernacular insult and that it was this that he was reacting to whilst making an imaginary card gesture, rather than the imaginary card gesture Saiss had made minutes earlier to earn big Vurn a stretch on the sidelines. He called 2 witnesses who both confirmed they didn't hear enough to be able to defend him. Got to ask you who the real victim is in this piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35063 Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 Surely I can't be the only one who's seen The Commitments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44811 Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 Cous cous Sally! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21912 Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 Try a little tajine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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