Vladimir Putin and Russia

[ohhh_yeah 2967]

 

 

[ohhh_yeah 2967]

 

 

[RobinRobin 11281]

5 hours ago, Monkeys Fist said:

Bonio will be issueing a copyright notice on that, licketty split, so he will. 

That'll take the biscuit

[Monkeys Fist 42458]

9 minutes ago, RobinRobin said:

That'll take the biscuit

Arf arf

[RobinRobin 11281]

11 minutes ago, Monkeys Fist said:

Arf arf

[Renton 21627]

9 hours ago, ohhh_yeah said:

 

 

 

Leave those tanks alone!

 

 

 

[Kevin Carr's Gloves 3894]

4 minutes ago, Renton said:

 

Leave those tanks alone!

 

 

 

They can send the ammunition back to Russia one at a time.

[Renton 21627]

 

 

[Toonpack 9423]

Could maybe be the sign of major collapse (fingers crossed)

 

 

 

[Anth 113]

Anyone worried about a tactical nuclear weapon being deployed? Some American Woman (can't remember her name / title) On Radio 4 this morning thought it was a very real threat. Surely not like...

[Gemmill 44894]

It's all Renton will talk about. 

[Dr Gloom 21924]

1 minute ago, Anth said:

Anyone worried about a tactical nuclear weapon being deployed? Some American Woman (can't remember her name / title) On Radio 4 this morning thought it was a very real threat. Surely not like...

Yes. That would be the game changer. You have to hope Putin isn’t suicidal enough to do it

[Toonpack 9423]

5 minutes ago, Anth said:

Anyone worried about a tactical nuclear weapon being deployed? Some American Woman (can't remember her name / title) On Radio 4 this morning thought it was a very real threat. Surely not like...

 

No, he does that he'll lose even China

[Gemmill 44894]

At this stage, will the chain of command carry it out. He's looking increasingly like a busted flush, is that not the point at which people just say "listen son, you've had a good run, but you walk like you've shit yourself, you look like a puffer fish, and you can't get a stiffy to save your life. Let's knock this on the head eh."

[Holden McGroin 6587]

Sounds reasonable. Im sure he'll go for it when put like that.

[Renton 21627]

Aye to Toonpack and Gemmill. The time to worry about nuclear weapons has passed now. Highly unlikely the chain of command would allow for them to be deployed, Russia would immediately lose support of CHina and everybody else. Much more likely for Putin to fall out of a window tbh. 

Edited September 13, 2022 by Renton

[RobinRobin 11281]

2 hours ago, Gemmill said:

At this stage, will the chain of command carry it out. He's looking increasingly like a busted flush, is that not the point at which people just say "listen son, you've had a good run, but you walk like you've shit yourself, you look like a puffer fish, and you can't get a stiffy to save your life. Let's knock this on the head eh."

Is this about CT? 😉 

[Rayvin 5223]

In the sense of what Putin might want to escalate to, tactical nukes make sense. I could see him wanting to do it. Not quite as certain as everyone else that the chain of command in Russia would prevent this from happening, but I can see the argument. Depends how unstable things are now.

 

If they did it, what would the response from everyone else be - Ukraine can't fire back on the same footing so the only robust response possible would be a separate nuclear power getting involved. And I'm still not sure anyone would if they haven't been targeted directly. So yeah it would be harrowing and would see condemnation from around the world (maybe China, not totally sure on that myself) but would that result in anything substantive happening in response..?

 

To prevent it absolutely, I think we need to be very clear that the consequences of it happening are nukes going back the other way.

 

 

[spongebob toonpants 3997]

3 hours ago, Renton said:

The time to worry about nuclear weapons has passed now.

 Now we're fucked

[Renton 21627]

55 minutes ago, Rayvin said:

In the sense of what Putin might want to escalate to, tactical nukes make sense. I could see him wanting to do it. Not quite as certain as everyone else that the chain of command in Russia would prevent this from happening, but I can see the argument. Depends how unstable things are now.

 

If they did it, what would the response from everyone else be - Ukraine can't fire back on the same footing so the only robust response possible would be a separate nuclear power getting involved. And I'm still not sure anyone would if they haven't been targeted directly. So yeah it would be harrowing and would see condemnation from around the world (maybe China, not totally sure on that myself) but would that result in anything substantive happening in response..?

 

To prevent it absolutely, I think we need to be very clear that the consequences of it happening are nukes going back the other way.

 

 

 

China would definitely disassociate themselves from Russia in the event they used nuclear weapons of any kind. China's policy is only to use nuclear weapons in retaliation to a nuclear strike, no way would they support Russia in this. They'd be as scared of WW3 as the rest of us. 

 

NATO doesn't have any "tactical" nuclear weapons in its arsenal to retaliate in a like for like response. The risk of escalation to a strategic nuclear war would be huge. Militarily of course, no use of nuclear weapons makes any sense in a territorial war, as you irradiate the land you hope to capture and risk killing your own troops in the fall out. Putin's finished imo, gone before Truss.

 

[Dr Gloom 21924]

1 hour ago, Renton said:

 

China would definitely disassociate themselves from Russia in the event they used nuclear weapons of any kind. China's policy is only to use nuclear weapons in retaliation to a nuclear strike, no way would they support Russia in this. They'd be as scared of WW3 as the rest of us. 

 

NATO doesn't have any "tactical" nuclear weapons in its arsenal to retaliate in a like for like response. The risk of escalation to a strategic nuclear war would be huge. Militarily of course, no use of nuclear weapons makes any sense in a territorial war, as you irradiate the land you hope to capture and risk killing your own troops in the fall out. Putin's finished imo, gone before Truss.

 

 

the yanks have tactical nukes, don't they? 

[Renton 21627]

6 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

 

the yanks have tactical nukes, don't they? 

 

Looking it up there they have some low yield gravity bombs, don't think they are much use in the theatre of war. Then again, I don't think any "tactical" weapons are. Iirc they used to have a suitcase or even brief case sized nuke, not sure they still have that though. 

[Dr Gloom 21924]

it's hard to imagine the yanks not being able to match the russians on most weapons, given the amount they spend on defence every year 

[Monkeys Fist 42458]

I’m sure the World Police have some “special” weapons only they know about, until it’s time for everyone to know about them. 

[Tom 14011]

Russian weapons, equipment & rations etc have been horrific. Mainly because they're corrupt as fuck so some Oligarch or other is taking huge profits from every contract. 
 

At the start of the conflict their rations were from 2015! Imagine what that did to morale! 
 

A large part of the battering Ukraine are dishing out is due to western weaponry, drones & javelin missiles etc.