Isegrim 9780 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10858 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 This idea that people giving their opinion on youtube, (or their own site once youtube kicks them off) are somehow less biased, and more informed than 'mainstream' media... it baffles me. This idea that layman will be more informed on the complexities of virology, epidemiology, foreign trade, domestic trade because they've smashed their trotters into google and got the answers they want from ULTRANEWSMAX, baffles me. Older members might be able to confirm, but it feels to me that it's become way more easy for gobshites to claim authority than it once was. Fuck me, I was a gobshite on loads of serious topics when I was a kid, just look back at some of the bollocks I put on here. I had no idea their was a lucrative career to be had from it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 29 minutes ago, The Fish said: This idea that people giving their opinion on youtube, (or their own site once youtube kicks them off) are somehow less biased, and more informed than 'mainstream' media... it baffles me. This idea that layman will be more informed on the complexities of virology, epidemiology, foreign trade, domestic trade because they've smashed their trotters into google and got the answers they want from ULTRANEWSMAX, baffles me. Older members might be able to confirm, but it feels to me that it's become way more easy for gobshites to claim authority than it once was. Fuck me, I was a gobshite on loads of serious topics when I was a kid, just look back at some of the bollocks I put on here. I had no idea their was a lucrative career to be had from it. I honestly and fully think a lot of this is explained by that Carole Cadwalldr tweet that PL linked to a few days back. The world changed around 2014 and not for the better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4156 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 We expect the Russians to somehow stand up to Putin, yet here in the US the man who practically killed off hundreds of thousands of Americans is getting ready for a second go at the Presidency. It get's a little easier to understand the madness you see abroad when you start looking closely at what's happening closer to home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44901 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Lads. Honestly. I cannot recommend the ignore function enough. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4770 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Righty, I think we were pretty clear on what this thread was for and, given the sensitivity of the subject were quite adamant that it stay on topic. As such I'm going to read through (god help me) the last couple of pages, and probably delete most of the posts. Keep shit where it belongs, we've got a match in 25 minutes, I've only just got up and I don't want to have to keep doing this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44901 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, Andrew said: Righty, I think we were pretty clear on what this thread was for and, given the sensitivity of the subject were quite adamant that it stay on topic. As such I'm going to read through (god help me) the last couple of pages, and probably delete most of the posts. Keep shit where it belongs, we've got a match in 25 minutes, I've only just got up and I don't want to have to keep doing this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17281 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 There’s always one journo that goes deep….Quentin Somerville & his team here, fuckin hell.. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-60786964 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Terrifying thread 😳 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15544 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 I made some money betting on Russia that year, so that's just gone to Medicins Sans Frontières. Not much we can do as individuals in this situation but a bit of karmic redistribution is better than nothing. I liked her song too. Even if it was - inevitably and ironically - a "we are the world" kind of peace anthem... 🤦♂️ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 They’re all wearing that weird Z. I mean, c’mon that’s comic book Nazi stuff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35095 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 (edited) If you think about how many people bought the absolute bollocks spouted by the Tories over the past decade and a half. Imagine that cranked up to 11 and then some more in Russia over Putin’s reign. Not that it makes it any less scary Edited March 18, 2022 by Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Oh yeh it’s absolutely mental. Completely crazy stuff. On one hand he’s calling Ukraine “Nazis” on the other he’s talking about “a natural cleansing of his people”. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Monkeys Fist 42459 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 7 hours ago, Tom said: They’re all wearing that weird Z. I mean, c’mon that’s comic book Nazi stuff. This is the start of the zombie takeover.… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 3357 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 (edited) I imagine Orwell, Dick, Vonnegut and the like, where ever they are, watching the world, shaking their heads and screaming "I told you so and you thought it was just fiction!" How predictable are we as a species!?!! Edited March 19, 2022 by sammynb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rayvin 5223 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 Is anyone else becoming a bit concerned that China appears to have sided with Russia on this? I read something about them offering military hardware to support the endeavour. And also this: https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/18/asia/wang-jixian-chinese-vlogger-ukraine-intl-hnk/index.html Chinese vlogger branded a national traitor for sharing the truth. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35095 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 Once it became clear the Russian army wasn’t particularly well trained, supplied etc I did think Putin’s bid to take back the Russian empire would result in it being part of the Chinese one. Them and India will happily take all their gas 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 44 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Is anyone else becoming a bit concerned that China appears to have sided with Russia on this? I read something about them offering military hardware to support the endeavour. And also this: https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/18/asia/wang-jixian-chinese-vlogger-ukraine-intl-hnk/index.html Chinese vlogger branded a national traitor for sharing the truth. an enemy of my friend is an enemy or whatever the phrase is China is Russia with 10 times more people and all of the factories. They’ll be the world’s Daddy soon if they aren’t already obviously you know this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 Agree with both of you, just depressing to see. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35095 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 The enemy of my enemy is my friend, even Think the Chinese just seize whatever opportunities comes their way in their bid to become the dominant global superpower tbh. Whether it’s this, economic colonisation of Africa or whatever. I doubt they give a fuck about Russia beyond what they can get out if it. Russia will be absolutely desperate for the investment 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 6 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Agree with both of you, just depressing to see. China’s been getting involved everywhere, way more than Russia IMO. They clearly do things more intelligently by the looks of things. Yes it’s depressing but ultimately I guess the world’s run more or less like this for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42459 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 14 minutes ago, Alex said: The enemy of my enemy is my friend, even 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21627 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 11 hours ago, sammynb said: I imagine Orwell, Dick, Vonnegut and the like, where ever they are, watching the world, shaking their heads and screaming "I told you so and you thought it was just fiction!" How predictable are we as a species!?!! Meanwhile Rodenberry...... Although if I remember utopia starts after WW3, not WW2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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