Howay 12496 Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 (edited) Walcott looked fucking shocking by the way, I know he was offside for one of his misses but Christ it was terrible. Edited September 4, 2016 by Howay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 How pleased with himself was Fat Sam? What a bell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelie 103 Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 Well actually I thought England played quite well except for the strike-force who played like 3 wet Swan Vestas. No real credit to Fat Sam though as his choice of players wasn't much different from Hodgsons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 14229 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 I actually thought it was worse than Hodgson. Say what you will about him, we breezed through qualifications. This felt like Alan Pardew's Newcastle stealing a last minute home win against Fulham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31586 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 "Wayne played wherever he wanted to," said Allardyce. "He did play a little deeper than I thought he'd play, but I was pleased with his performance. “This is the most decorated outfield player in England. He’s won everything at Manchester United, at Champions League and domestic level. I think he holds a lot more experience at international football than I do as an international manager. "It's not for me to say where he's going to play," Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4966 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 "Wayne played wherever he wanted to," said Allardyce. "He did play a little deeper than I thought he'd play, but I was pleased with his performance. “This is the most decorated outfield player in England. He’s won everything at Manchester United, at Champions League and domestic level. I think he holds a lot more experience at international football than I do as an international manager. "It's not for me to say where he's going to play," Thats not real is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5572 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 Can't be real, even for Allardyce that'd be fucking ludicrous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4966 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 I just checked, it's real.Jesus wept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31586 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 Given that Allardyce's greatest honour in his managerial career was winning the League of Ireland I think you could argue that the entire squad should be allowed to play as they wish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 Thought he was an arch taskmaster and all that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizza 105 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 Can't tell him where to play? Seriously? England are fucked with this fuckwit in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35913 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 Still loved it when we scored as there's nowt better than seeing a side who has timewasted and spoilt so much getting beaten at the death. That's not to say I disagree with any of the comments. What the fuck can you expect with Allardyce though? We all know he's a total fraud who hides behind his sports science and nutrition bullshit to mask what a dinosaur he is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 Made a career out of one good season at Bolton a million years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5572 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 Just read more of that interview and Allardyce goes on to comment on how Rooney played deeper than he (Allardyce) thought he would, as if this was something over which he has no control and is just passive observer. It's going to be an interesting two years. I'd be amazed if it goes on longer than two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 I actually thought it was worse than Hodgson. Say what you will about him, we breezed through qualifications. This felt like Alan Pardew's Newcastle stealing a last minute home win against Fulham Except that when we played Slovakia under Hodgson 2 months ago we didnt beat them. Didnt really see much difference either, dont think thats the point. Hodgson is probably a better coach but if i understood the thinking, we dont need a brilliant coach to get out of our qualifying groups, we need someone who can inspire / motivate and get a performance out of a team at a major tournament. As qualifying out of this group should be a formality, the playing style that gets us there isnt really important. Its going one better than the shite displays we have put on over the last decade and more at major finals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 Not saying i agree that he is the right man, just what i saw as the thinking from the FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5572 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 That's actually the first vaguely credible reason for having him that I've heard. It has to be it, surely. Thing is though, Allardyce doesn't motivate teams to achieve, does he? Is motivating to avoid relegation the same as motivating to win something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 Seems like a gamble to me whichever way you look at it but his pragmatic coaching (a la Portugal) and his bombastic self-confident style (to stick it up 'em) got him the job. Imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35913 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 There was more to it than just Portugal winning the Euros with a pragmatic approach since the FA had also clearly decided on an Englishman. That narrowed the field down to about 3 or 4 potential candidates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2207 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 "I think he holds a lot more experience at international football than I do as an international manager. "It's not for me to say where he's going to play," Isn't this his first ever game as an international manager? Or am I missing something here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 7787 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 Sam is there because he's deluded enough to avoid the pressure the media puts on the England manager. His stubborn pig headedness is part of what helped Sunderland avoid relegation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 4069 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 Sam is there because he's deluded enough to avoid the pressure the media puts on the England manager. His stubborn pig headedness is part of what helped Sunderland avoid relegation. Steve McLaren is what helped save Sunderland from relegation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15839 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 Steve McLaren is what helped save Sunderland from relegation. He sounds good, they should give him a go at the England job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35913 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 It was only his being Dutch that stopped him being considered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1280 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 I see absolutely no change from what happened in the previous few competitions. We'll comfortably qualify then be awful in the main event scraping though the group stage before losing in the next round to someone completely average. The whole thing needs shaking up, players, manager and whoever runs these things at the FA. We're going nowhere the way things are. They should look at what's went on with the England Cricket (particularly in the shorter forms) and Rugby union teams in the last couple of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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