Isaac Hayden

[acrossthepond 905]

3 hours ago, David Kelly said:

Muto being an (alleged) striker and Dumas being a defender don't count (I actually think Dumas ended up playing a couple of decent games for us).   McClen, Brady, Hamilton, Pancrate, Georgiadis and Ireland don't count as they barely played a game for us (same as Terry Wilson who would have undoubtedly come into consideration with Fumaca if I was considering just anyone who played a game or two).  Even Bassedas is pushing it.  Faye definitely deserves consideration as he was fucking terrible.  Geremi, I wouldn't personally rate him as poorly.  Maybe that's because I've seen that he was a good player before he ended up here and if I were to objectively judge him on his time here, he'd probably have to be considered.

I'm no doubt being harsh on him but I think it's the fact that Hayden played 171 games for us (which will be more than all of these other players combined I would think), and that people somehow thought he was a consistent 7 out of 10 that makes me hate him so much.  His best days weren't a 7 out 10, he was a consistent 5.

 

Matty Pattison made 10 league appearances for us - ugh. I'll throw Hendrick in there too as he was fucking awful and a classic Ashley signing. Siem de Jong, Henri Saivet the mystery man, Kenedy (second spell), Thauvin and Cabella...the list goes on. Geremi I actually consider better than several of those, at least at the start of his time with us. 

[David Kelly 1306]

2 minutes ago, acrossthepond said:

 

Matty Pattison made 10 league appearances for us - ugh. I'll throw Hendrick in there too as he was fucking awful and a classic Ashley signing. Siem de Jong, Henri Saivet the mystery man, Kenedy (second spell), Thauvin and Cabella...the list goes on. Geremi I actually consider better than several of those, at least at the start of his time with us. 

Kendrick definitely comes in for consideration.  Awful footballer.

[acrossthepond 905]

Sometime when you really want to boggle your mind, look at the astonishing list of ABSOLUTE FUCKING DIRGE that we signed under Ashley, and the fees we paid for them, and think about how much whinging he did about not being able to wipe our own noses or whatever the fuck it was. The extent of the no-namers that briefly wore our colours really has to be seen to be believed. We spaffed a hundred million pounds on pure dogshit trying to find bargains from France and Belgium because we once lucked into signing Cheick Tiote for 4m and wanted to replicate that twenty more times. 

[The Fish 11112]

9 minutes ago, Alex said:

Dumas counts as a midfielder because that’s where he played. He was a continental style sweeper in France but Gullit played him instead of Rob Lee. He also looked like a bin man. Almost as much as Neville Southall 

 

apropos of absolutely nothing whenever anyone says "Dumbass" my mind immediately goes to Ol' Franky boy.

[Alex 35979]

There was a game Geremi played at wingback under Allardyce where he was hung out to dry as it was clear he didn’t have the legs to play there anymore. But he looked good in KK’s first half season in his 2nd spell here as manager. When KK settled on a 4-3-3 and played Butt and Barton in there too 

[Alex 35979]

6 minutes ago, David Kelly said:

Kendrick definitely comes in for consideration.  Awful footballer.

You’d be forgiven for forgetting about him though. Even (perhaps especially) if you were watching him play 

Edited 5 hours ago by Alex

[David Kelly 1306]

Just now, Alex said:

You’d be forgiven for forgetting about him though. Even (perhaps especially) if you were watching him play 

He just ran alongside games.  I don't think I've seen a less influential player.

[Meenzer 15877]

12 minutes ago, David Kelly said:

He just ran alongside games.  I don't think I've seen a less influential player.

 

79 (SEVENTY-NINE) caps for Ireland.

 

 

[Dr Gloom 22692]

23 minutes ago, David Kelly said:

Kendrick definitely comes in for consideration.  Awful footballer.

 

he should stick to rapping 

[The Fish 11112]

3 minutes ago, acrossthepond said:

Sometime when you really want to boggle your mind, look at the astonishing list of ABSOLUTE FUCKING DIRGE that we signed under Ashley, and the fees we paid for them, and think about how much whinging he did about not being able to wipe our own noses or whatever the fuck it was. The extent of the no-namers that briefly wore our colours really has to be seen to be believed. We spaffed a hundred million pounds on pure dogshit trying to find bargains from France and Belgium because we once lucked into signing Cheick Tiote for 4m and wanted to replicate that twenty more times. 

 

Just the midfielders bought/signed during the Dark Ages under Ashley, and their fee in euros.

 

[Holden McGroin 6997]

Colback was worse than Hayden. I forgot about Alan Smith? Awful CM.

 

 

[Dr Gloom 22692]

1 minute ago, Holden McGroin said:

Colback was worse than Hayden. I forgot about Alan Smith? Awful CM.

 

 

 

didn't he play for england at CM at one point?

[Dazzler 10986]

Saivet was worse too. 

[Alex 35979]

1 hour ago, acrossthepond said:

 

Matty Pattison made 10 league appearances for us - ugh. I'll throw Hendrick in there too as he was fucking awful and a classic Ashley signing. Siem de Jong, Henri Saivet the mystery man, Kenedy (second spell), Thauvin and Cabella...the list goes on. Geremi I actually consider better than several of those, at least at the start of his time with us. 

That game away to Spurs when we won when Butt scored and Martins scored a screamer. It was like playing with 10 men having Pattison in the side. He was fucking miles out of his depth