Alex 35083 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Skilled Barbecuers are allowed to stay under CT's proposed points-based system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneColdStephenIreland 74 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 I hope they look back on this tournament and put it back to 16 teams. The football was dour and a stark contrast to the 2014 World Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35083 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 More chance they'll expand it to 32. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1245 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 It was a shite tournament with few (if any memorable games). For England fans it's likely to get even worse if Big Sham gets the job. That he's even being considered shows how few good English managers there are out there. In fact it shows there simply aren't any top level ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Aye the fact that a bloke who has spent his entire career scrapping relegation could be England manager is laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1245 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Could you imagine German, Spain, Italy or France considering someone with similar qualifcations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6587 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 (edited) If the FA decide to go English then there are zero capable candidates. Edited July 11, 2016 by Holden McGroin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7030 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 I reckon he's gutted he ruled himself out now that the likes of fat Sam and Bruce are getting a mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1245 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 If the FA decide to go English then they are zero capable candidates.This is why I can't for the life of me understand why they are talking about an English manager. Plenty of national teams have foreign managers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33234 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 I reckon he's gutted he ruled himself out now that the likes of fat Sam and Bruce are getting a mentionWould love Pardew or allardyce to get it, failing that give it to shearer just to see pardew's reaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhh_yeah 2967 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Official Euro "Team of the Tournament" has been announced. 4-2-3-1 formation. Rui Patricio, Kimmich, Pepe, Boateng, Guerreiro, Kroos, Allen, Ramsey, Griezmann, Payet, Ronaldo. Rui Patricio, Kimmich and Ronaldo should be dropped. Who is missing then? Bale? Lloris? Gunnarsson? Umtiti? Perisic? Neuer? Bonucci? Sigurdsson? Sanches? Sissoko( )? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21924 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Just when you thought the England football team couldn't get any worse, they interview old hipo head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Hog 522 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 One final one for the tournament? Oh go on then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7030 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Official Euro "Team of the Tournament" has been announced. 4-2-3-1 formation. Rui Patricio, Kimmich, Pepe, Boateng, Guerreiro, Kroos, Allen, Ramsey, Griezmann, Payet, Ronaldo. Rui Patricio, Kimmich and Ronaldo should be dropped. Who is missing then? Bale? Lloris? Gunnarsson? Umtiti? Perisic? Neuer? Bonucci? Sigurdsson? Sanches? Sissoko( )? Mental that Allen is in ahead of Bale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhh_yeah 2967 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Just when you thought the England football team couldn't get any worse, they interview old hipo head and some in the media are backing him. fourfourtwo: Alex Keble kicks off with the man best known for maximising resources... Lets break the cycle. Every two years the media hypnotise us into believing that England rank among the front-runners; every two years England attempt to play a progressive, possession-based game; every two years England fall pathetically at the first difficult hurdle. The latest inquest has already led us towards Jurgen Klinsmann, an attack-minded manager who will help fuel our collective belief that England are among the worlds best. This optimistic approach, though doomed to fail, is understandable. Its easier to believe that 2016 was an isolated failure rather than part of a wider pattern, because to accept the latter would be to confront the shameful fact that the countrys youth academies (the most financially powerful in world football) are failing and that the medias expectations are intertwined with the nervous inertia that defines England matches. England are not among the best nations in Europe, let alone the world. To advance beyond the second round at the World Cup 2018 will require some serious improvements and a significantly more humble approach towards tournament football. This is not a squad in need of a progressive, world-beating manager. However painful it is to admit, this is a nation that needs Sam Allardyce. Pragmatism pays The conservative aesthetics offered at Euro 2016 by Portugal and Italy (both limited in their talents) should be seen as a template for the FA. Allardyce would deliver something similar, dismissing Hodgsons patient and thoughtful approach in favour of a more defensive system. Although it may be unpopular, the England players could excel with a more direct counter-attacking strategy, mixing the grit and steel of some talented central midfielders (Eric Dier, Jordan Henderson, Fabian Delph) with speed in the final third (Jamie Vardy, Raheem Sterling, Marcus Rashford). However, it would be grossly unfair to suggest that Allardyce a highly adaptable and constantly evolving coach always plays in the same way, or that he cannot play progressive football. In his final season at Upton Park he used a 4-4-2 diamond formation that propelled West Ham towards the top four until their collapse in January. Using Diafra Sakho and Enner Valencia as split strikers with Stewart Downing in the No.10 role, the Hammers were transformed into an exciting team that combined typically direct and powerful Allardyce tactics with attacking verve. England could easily use this system, with Jamie Vardy and Harry Kane bursting into the channels and opening up space for Wayne Rooney or Raheem Sterling behind. Advanced full-backs played a crucial role in that West Ham team, and in the Spurs pair of Danny Rose and Kyle Walker, Allardyce would have the perfect balance of talent to implement this system. Not that we should assume to know how an Allardyce England would line up. Above all else, he is a reactive manager who collects meticulous detail on opponents in order to exploit weaknesses, tweaking his tactics and formation constantly. He is widely respected by former players for his attention to detail and ability to organise his teams so that each player understands their role exactly. Mr Motivator International football requires that managers get their ideas across quickly and, above all, they must be excellent motivators. Allardyces track record suggests that he excels in both departments. Bolton, Blackburn, West Ham and Sunderland all dramatically improved almost immediately after he joined. That he so quickly galvanised a Sunderland squad that looked lethargic and unmotivated is testament to his big personality, and the speed with which he can implement his ideas. Whats more, his excellent working relationship with Nicolas Anelka, El Hadji Diouf and Youri Djorkaeff suggest he knows how to handle big egos. England could do with a manager capable of taking disparate parts and quickly moulding them into a defensively resolute unit. In fact, Jermain Defoe recently endorsed the ex-Bolton manager's skills, saying: "He should be among the contenders for the job. Sam has always said to us, 'you know what? I don't care how we play, as long as we win, that's the most important thing'. "'Sometimes you can't make it pretty and play good football football is about results. It doesn't matter how you play." Defoe told the BBC. Aside from his short stint under difficult circumstances at Newcastle, Allardyce has been successful at every club he has managed. It would be arrogant of England, who have not performed well at a tournament in 20 years, to dismiss his tactical philosophy given the success it brought Bolton, Blackburn, West Ham and Sunderland. England are, at best, 10th favourites to win the World Cup in Russia. Rather than allowing the delusions of grandeur to continue, lets embrace the pragmatism and tactical nous of an English manager with the type of record and personality that could see England finally achieve whats expected of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 11281 Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 This is just another example of people not understanding his track record. He glosses over the fact that, despite all the "attacking verve", West Ham tanked in the last half of the season, and their supporters and owners could not get rid of him soon enough. As for Sunderland dramatically improving "almost immediately after he joined", that was in October, and they finished 2 points above relegation - absolutely stunning! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 England players going from Klopp, Mourinhio, Conte, Guardiola, Pochetinho and Ranieri to Allardyce are going to be massively enthused to play for England with the step up in tactical efficacy he brings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35083 Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 (edited) This is just another example of people not understanding his track record. He glosses over the fact that, despite all the "attacking verve", West Ham tanked in the last half of the season, and their supporters and owners could not get rid of him soon enough. As for Sunderland dramatically improving "almost immediately after he joined", that was in October, and they finished 2 points above relegation - absolutely stunning! Aye, he did a 'fantastic job' keeping Sunderland up. He accrued 2 more points than us over the same amount of games over last season. And we were fucking woeful. Edited July 12, 2016 by Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44894 Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 I hope he gets the job so we can finally put to bed the Sam Allardyce myth. Let's face it, nothing will be spoiling from an England point of view as the FA are not about to appoint anyone that would actually achieve anything with the team. If it's not Allardyce it'll be some other cunt like Pardew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneColdStephenIreland 74 Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 When he was at Bolton he won the same amount of games that he lost. Since then at every club he's been at he's lost more games than he's won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13869 Posted July 12, 2016 Author Share Posted July 12, 2016 Read that McClaren actually has a better career win percentage than Allardyce as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 One final one for the tournament? Oh go on then "> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 One final one for the tournament? Oh go on then That is outstanding! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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