The Fish 10971 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 We may not do a Leeds,Bolton but I think we could do a Middlesbrough & be down there for a few years Nah, even if we lose the likes of Colo, Mbemba, Janmaat, Tiote, Anita, Sissoko, Wijnaldum, Perez, there'll be enough quality left over to get us back up. Even if there isn't we're a big enough club that we could attract promising players to join us, even in the 2nd flight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31209 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 At least this is one of the games that Shelvey should be up for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7174 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Cos spending £80mil this season worked wonders. Our problems are deeper than buying a few more players. We obviously do no due diligence on a players personality. Shelvey, Gini, Cabella, Thauvin, Janmaat. All itching for a move away as soon as the going gets tough. When we got relegated last time we were still a bigger draw than 75% of the premier league. Now 20 teams are getting £100mil tv money. Who the fuck wants to come and play for this shit show in the championship? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1260 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Cos spending £80mil this season worked wonders. Our problems are deeper than buying a few more players. We obviously do no due diligence on a players personality. Shelvey, Gini, Cabella, Thauvin, Janmaat. All itching for a move away as soon as the going gets tough. When we got relegated last time we were still a bigger draw than 75% of the premier league. Now 20 teams are getting £100mil tv money. Who the fuck wants to come and play for this shit show in the championship?Rafa has come with us looking odds on for relegation. Of course he probably won't stay but none of us thought we could attract someone like him anymore. We will still be able to attract more than you think. I do agree that the problems in the club run far deeper though. We desperately need to get shot of Penfold and get someone in who's capable of leading the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10971 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Cos spending £80mil this season worked wonders. Our problems are deeper than buying a few more players. We obviously do no due diligence on a players personality. Shelvey, Gini, Cabella, Thauvin, Janmaat. All itching for a move away as soon as the going gets tough. When we got relegated last time we were still a bigger draw than 75% of the premier league. Now 20 teams are getting £100mil tv money. Who the fuck wants to come and play for this shit show in the championship? You're underestimating our global brand, the lure of English football and overestimating how enticing other teams are. There'll be players who'd rather sign for Newcastle United in the championship than Bournemouth in the Premier League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4834 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 I'm considering going Had a few "timehops" pop up lately of recent good days out at the game and really fancy another "match day" out. Just not sure if I could stomach watching these surrender monkeys in the flesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 22002 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Absolutely in Ashley's interest to get us promoted asap. Can see no reason why we won't go up in the first season. I think we were just as bad last relegation as this one, have people forgotten what the consensus was of the likes of Guti, Enrique etc was last time? And hughton - then completely unproven - as manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpirlo68 0 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 This could literally be the Leeds, Forest, Pompey relegation for us. Last time we had Carrol, Colo, Harper, Barton, Nolan, Lovenkrands, Jonas, Enrique to get us straight back up. We've got zero leaders in our team and the u21/u18 team is having a worse run of results than the first team. We could even drop straight through to League one we are that bereft of skill/confidence/leadership This gets said a lot, bit what leadership quality did those players actually show? Nolan used to hide behind the ball the year we went down and Jonas and Enrique were poor and showed no sign of loving the club People said this last time that we was going to do a Leeds but it didn't. When we go down I'm sure they'll players that will come out and be 'leaders' that we wouldn't expect would be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10971 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 I'm considering going Had a few "timehops" pop up lately of recent good days out at the game and really fancy another "match day" out. Just not sure if I could stomach watching these surrender monkeys in the flesh. If anyone can, you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4834 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 If anyone can, you can. I knew that was coming as soon as I wrote it Hesitated and thought about going with "bare it", but knew I get the wrong bear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Absolutely in Ashley's interest to get us promoted asap. Can see no reason why we won't go up in the first season. I think we were just as bad last relegation as this one, have people forgotten what the consensus was of the likes of Guti, Enrique etc was last time? And hughton - then completely unproven - as manager? Agreed, people always point to players like Nolan, Barton etc but they were absolutely hopeless themselves while we were being relegated. Colo and Enrique were two of the worst defenders in the league when we went down, Beye and Bassong looked miles ahead of both. The gap between the Championship and the Prem is massive, there are of course a small number of team towards the top of the Championship that are okay but the majority are more like League one sides. I still reckon we'll come straight back up, we could languish for a season or two for sure but I see no chance of us free falling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10971 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 I knew that was coming as soon as I wrote it Hesitated and thought about going with "bare it", but knew I get the wrong bear. fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 14053 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 I used to be a 20 post a day sad cunt like others on here, but I really haven't got anything positive to say about this wank club anymore. I'm sick of it, and I'm pleased I jacked my season ticket, I need positivity around me given my condition and one source of occasional brightness in my life was these fuckin arseholes. We are going down, to where this club, with the content of its boardroom and its reason for existence, deserve to be. The reason for our existence is simple. Make an ugly man money. Aye, I'm in this boat. I still use Twitter and the rest of it but I'm doing my best to avoid anything to do with the club atm because this relegation is richly deserved. They deserve it for how they let the squad stagnate since 2012, how they took the cheap approach AGAIN with regards to McClaren and how they refused to sign any defenders in January. Benitez was a good move but born, completely, out of desperation and once more, they're flying by the seat of their pants to the Championship. Fuck them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7084 Posted April 12, 2016 Author Share Posted April 12, 2016 Benitez was a good move but born, completely, out of desperation and once more, they're flying by the seat of their pants to the Championship. Fuck them. Rather than "bolt the horse" to the cart, they have shut the door after the horse has bolted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35588 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 And shot the cart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33852 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Last relegation was the most self inflicted one I've ever saw from a club other than Leeds/Pompey for obvious reasons. This potential relegation is just as self inflicted. Absolutely 100% avoidable if we had anything like a normal executive board at the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31209 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Absolutely in Ashley's interest to get us promoted asap. I thought that last time but he ended up appointing a novice manager and spending very little. Our bounce back was nothing to do with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 I thought that last time but he ended up appointing a novice manager and spending very little. Our bounce back was nothing to do with him. I think we'll see a similarly uncommitted attempt this time as he'll once again gamble that the squad that stays + a few cheap experienced upper Championship players can do the job, I think the investment will come if there was a season 2 in the Championship, I think he'd spend then to try and force the team back into the Premiership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1260 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Agreed, people always point to players like Nolan, Barton etc but they were absolutely hopeless themselves while we were being relegated. Colo and Enrique were two of the worst defenders in the league when we went down, Beye and Bassong looked miles ahead of both. The gap between the Championship and the Prem is massive, there are of course a small number of team towards the top of the Championship that are okay but the majority are more like League one sides. I still reckon we'll come straight back up, we could languish for a season or two for sure but I see no chance of us free falling. Enrique wasn't as bad as a lot of people seem to remember. The second half of the relegation season he was probably our best player (obviously that's not saying a great deal) after Bassong's form dipped. He really hit his stride in the Championship but he wasn't near as bad as Colo was. Not that this detracts from you point which I agree with. The last relegation season was just as devoid of leaders as this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46034 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Go down, stay down. That's what this club needs. A complete reboot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17661 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Who's writing the new program?....and will the present owner of the copyright to the game let just any old has been programmer re write it or will he cheerfully just sell the title on at a loss to fuck knows what sort of idiot amateur gamer..pretty much against character and his own business principles, it has to be said.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 I thought that last time but he ended up appointing a novice manager and spending very little. Our bounce back was nothing to do with him. No idea what he will do this time and not saying this was the reason we came straight back up but our wages were something like 50m for the championship season (or thereabouts - someone else can google it). Firstly, this was unprecedented in the league and meant a massive loss. Secondly, not sure there was much choice given lack of relegation clauses / better alternatives for the players we had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6785 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Absolutely in Ashley's interest to get us promoted asap. Can see no reason why we won't go up in the first season. I think we were just as bad last relegation as this one, have people forgotten what the consensus was of the likes of Guti, Enrique etc was last time? And hughton - then completely unproven - as manager? Standard reaction of a football fan. One win and we're great, one loss and we're the shittest team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haydnator 45 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 I'm just hoping for a win on Saturday to keep it remotely interesting. Even the most deluded optimist would have to concede if we fail to win we are down. But win, and suddenly a poor man city match becomes interesting..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobos 298 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 this spending 80 mil comment still grinds my fuckin gears. Spending 80 mil on 2 decent MIDFIELD players and the rest prospects , when we've no cover for CB / LB / LM etc etc and still no proven goalscorer. I love mitro, he's quality, but he has to fall under the prospects banner. Spending money IS the answer, but in a controlled and sensible way over several seasons. What we've been doing is buying and selling to profit with no thought to team balance at all. I don't even think thought into whether the players want to play for NUFC or just come to be gone in 6 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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