Dickie 0 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Aye a draw isn't end of the world, especially if we play well, create chances and show confidence. A win would obviously make us favourites to stop up at their expense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21912 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 (edited) I think when you look at our away form, it has to be a must win game. Games are running out and we need to put a run together if we're going to get out of it. Beat the mackems and Norwich and we're half way there Edited March 17, 2016 by Dr Gloom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1244 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Just in general points terms, it's a must not lose. We'd be another further 3 points behind them whereas a draw would have us still just a point behind. A defeat to that shower of shite would also be a real morale killer whereas a draw would be disapointing but not unrecoverable. Â Obviously a win would be massive any way you look at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Home games Makems Swansea Man City Palace Spurs  Away Games Norwich Southampton Liverpool Villa We're running out of games, I still think we need to take all 3 points on Sunday our away form is shocking (7 loses in a row now) & it's hard to see we're the next win could be, if we don't win on Sunday. It's a confidence booster as well as 3 points an odd point here & there won't be enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10855 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 We probably need 12-14 points  If my maths is right there are 19 successful combinations of results out of a possible 55 (1/3) combinations to get 14pts or more. And, say we will only manage 4 wins or less, the chances of getting 14pts are 6 from 55 (1/9).  Obviously, 38pts is an arbitrary figure and we may not even need the 14pts to get to that to survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essembeeofsunderland 811 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 I'd be happy with a draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 We probably need 12-14 points  If my maths is right there are 19 successful combinations of results out of a possible 55 (1/3) combinations to get 14pts or more. And, say we will only manage 4 wins or less, the chances of getting 14pts are 6 from 55 (1/9).  Obviously, 38pts is an arbitrary figure and we may not even need the 14pts to get to that to survive. Even if it's 12 points if we only get the draw on Sunday it's still hard too see we're we get the remaining (11?) points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35063 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 11 points is purely hypothetical and a draw would mean they only got one point too though. I know what you're getting at but the point people are making is right about not losing being far more important than winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10855 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Even if it's 12 points if we only get the draw on Sunday it's still hard too see we're we get the remaining (11?) points If we ignore the Mackems we have; Norwich, Swansea, Crystal Palace, & Villa which are all winnable games, there's 8points at least imo  Manchester City for a cheeky point or more, especially with our game coming when it does for them; In 10 days they have: a tough league game v Pulis' WBA, Champions League Quarter Final (hopefully away), tough league game away to a resurgent Chelsea, then us at St James' when hopefully Rafa will have had time to firm up our our back line.  Depending on where we are/they are Liverpool (3 days after their derby), Southampton & Spurs may be games we can earn a point or (especially if Spurs have already confirmed their final position) grab a very unlikely 3pts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10855 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 I'd be happy with a draw. Â Especially if West Brom do us a favour and put a few past Norwich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Â Especially if West Brom do us a favour and put a few past Norwich. That's the other thing isn't it relying on other teams to do us a favour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7083 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 We're going to win this time. Convincingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21912 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 It's clearly still mathematically possible to draw and still stop up, but I doubt we'll do it without the confidence boost we'd get from beating these at home. It'll give us the momentum going to Norwich. Draw or lose to Sunlan and I can see us reverting to the type of toothless away performances we've seen for the bulk of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmericanMag 0 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Can't believe how excited/nervous I am for this game. Before Rafa I would have written it off and resigned myself to the fact that we were going down but the prospect of next season in the top flight with Benitez at the helm just adds to the pressure. I will be watching this one from behind the couch. Already told the wife to take the new baby for a walk Sunday morning... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneColdStephenIreland 74 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 We need to win like. It's a game less for them getting points and we need to better our goal difference as we need to start shortening that gap too. We need 12 points at least from our games left and 6 of those need to be against Sunderland and Norwich! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7083 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 It's almost a 9 pointer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 It's almost a 9 pointer. It could make the difference between watching a rubbish championship side managed by another one of Ashley's mates. Or a Premiership side with a good manager possibly winning a cup next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35063 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 A cup? The league tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobos 298 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 I expect a win . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42387 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 I like turtles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 The 2 presser's tomorrow should be tasty Fat Sam's is first thing in the morning Rafa's is at lunchtime they hate each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essembeeofsunderland 811 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 A defeat would hurt our situation more than a win would help us.The same with the Norwich game.Chucking the towel in far too often has fucked our goal difference up.Shelvey and Townsend can make things happen but they need a bit help from the midfield and strikers.We've missed far too many sitters this season.Humping high balls to Mitro won't be the answer on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmericanMag 0 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016  1996: Sunderland 1-2 Sunderland Sunderland threw the kitchen sink at Kevin Keegan’s Entertainers in the first half, going 1-0 up. United’s class finally told with goals from Beardsley and Ferdinand securing the win. Relegation beckoned for the Black Cats.  Must have been one hell of a derby!  http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/history/newcastle-sunderland-15-titanic-tyne-11050935 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhh_yeah 2964 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Â We all have hobbies. You dress up and jump into streams, I treasure hunt I await a photo of you after a discovery of lost plunder. This is after unearthing scuba diving as your new pastime and purchasing new gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Avoid Japanese waters, CT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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