Rayvin 5176 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 It really doesn't sound to me like he wants to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Sounds like he's off to me. Ashley will see this as a stand-off rather than somebody trying to improve his asset.  Hopefully fan anger doesn't subside over the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5176 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 9 minutes ago, TheGingerQuiff said: Sounds like he's off to me. Â Which bits? Mostly it just reads like he wants clarity IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Â Which bits? Mostly it just reads like he wants clarity IMO. Â Oh I don't think he wants to leave, just get the feeling that it's going to turn into a stand-off. Media already reporting that we're drawing up a shortlist of new managers which could be made up or could be posturing to call his bluff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13794 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 I think he stayed this season because he assumed that he could either convince them to spend or that he'd have more to play with by virtue of the club generating more money. I've no doubt that they'll be using the Almiron transfer as an excuse to not spend in the summer. It's basically the same situation as 12/13 when we signed a load of players in January and then signed nobody in the summer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 One of the things Rafa wants are the training facilities brought up to scratch. Yet Charnley seemed to rule that out last week with his "did the training facilities ever put a player off signing for Newcastle United? No" statement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34838 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 1 hour ago, trooper said: One of the things Rafa wants are the training facilities brought up to scratch. Yet Charnley seemed to rule that out last week with his "did the training facilities ever put a player off signing for Newcastle United? No" statement I bet he’s put a few off signing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Alex said: I bet he’s put a few off signing  Unlikely, the club policy of telling potential signings that they aren't built for the premier league was pretty foolproof. Modric being the only exception Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10724 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 3 hours ago, Rayvin said: It really doesn't sound to me like he wants to leave. Don't think that's ever been in question. He obviously wants to stay, and if we had an owner with a modicum of ambition, this wouldn't have been an issue at all. We've got the money to pay competitive wages, we've got the money to pay competitive fees, we've got the manager (and renown) to attract the standard of player that would command that kind of outlay. What's the prize money difference between the league positions? About £2m? So finish 7th instead of 17th gets you about £20m. Tv fees were £12.3m plus 'being on tv loads' money for about £1m a pop after the first 10 featured games. I'm sure we've been on the tv more times than any club outside the top 6. That's another £17m or so. Naturally if we were competing for cups instead of abandoning them asap, we'd get tv money for those as well. Sponsors would be more willing to tolerate a light association with Sports Direct if Newcastle were a progressive, ambitious brand. I'm all for running the club's finances well, but it's a football club. As with all clubs, ambition is it's raison d'etre. Stagnant clubs will hemorrhage fans, sponsors, and league position. You have to be wilfully ignorant to not see this. Speculation from a sound financial footing is the best way to improve fortunes on and off the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9733 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 3 hours ago, trooper said: One of the things Rafa wants are the training facilities brought up to scratch. Yet Charnley seemed to rule that out last week with his "did the training facilities ever put a player off signing for Newcastle United? No" statement It’s a typical statement in line with the attempt to prove why decent cup runs are not good for a club. I doubt any players would reject a club because of the facilities anyway but the point is that decent facilities and a visible demonstration of a clubs ambition could persuade reluctant players to sign for a club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10724 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Isegrim said: It’s a typical statement in line with the attempt to prove why decent cup runs are not good for a club. I doubt any players would reject a club because of the facilities anyway but the point is that decent facilities and a visible demonstration of a clubs ambition could persuade reluctant players to sign for a club. Aye, and it's missing the point that having facilities that are fit for purpose aren't a luxury, they're a fucking necessity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13794 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 And that if these young players they want to sign had a high-quality place to train, they’d improve more and have more sell-on value. They can’t even get any aspect of their own money-making hustle plan right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essembeeofsunderland 811 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 The training facilities were an absolute joke when Keegan was manager. Neebody complained then, neither fans nor players. Fuck me, they're not training amongst the cow shit on the Town Moor. In the 60s i used to watch them train on concrete in front of the main stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawb 4181 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Ah fuck it then, if things used to be worse we may as well not bother 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13794 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Â Let's just not bother moving on with the rest of the sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30259 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 1 hour ago, essembeeofsunderland said: The training facilities were an absolute joke when Keegan was manager. Neebody complained then, neither fans nor players. Fuck me, they're not training amongst the cow shit on the Town Moor. In the 60s i used to watch them train on concrete in front of the main stand. You’re a special kind of stupid, aren’t you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9733 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 2 hours ago, essembeeofsunderland said: The training facilities were an absolute joke when Keegan was manager. Neebody complained then, neither fans nor players. Fuck me, they're not training amongst the cow shit on the Town Moor. In the 60s i used to watch them train on concrete in front of the main stand. In football everything went downhill when they banned square goal posts imho. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Half time pints and tabs as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawb 4181 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Particularly miss being pissed on in the terraces 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34838 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 12 hours ago, essembeeofsunderland said: The training facilities were an absolute joke when Keegan was manager. Neebody complained then, neither fans nor players. Fuck me, they're not training amongst the cow shit on the Town Moor. In the 60s i used to watch them train on concrete in front of the main stand. Can’t imagine why you voted Leave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3809 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 13 hours ago, essembeeofsunderland said: The training facilities were an absolute joke when Keegan was manager. Neebody complained then, neither fans nor players. Fuck me, they're not training amongst the cow shit on the Town Moor. In the 60s i used to watch them train on concrete in front of the main stand. How old are you pretending to be now? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essembeeofsunderland 811 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Kevin Carr's Gloves said: How old are you pretending to be now? You never knew they trained in 60s outside the main stand, did you?  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3809 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, essembeeofsunderland said: You never knew they trained in 60s outside the main stand, did you?  Well know I wasn’t around then, but I don’t think you were either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essembeeofsunderland 811 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 You didnt necessarily have to be around to know. Hunters Moor. The swimming pool under the foyer of the old main stand. The black and white scarf that used to hang from one of the supports in the directors box. The peanut seller. Westwood the Pirate.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15401 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Penny farthings on the street, riding. Motor cars were funny things, frightening. Bow and hoops and spinning tops. Penny dreadfuls, lollipops. Comic Cuts, all different things. Â Â 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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