ewerk 30602 Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 6 hours ago, Rayvin said: A decent number of Arsenal fans think they should go for him. And also that they would have no trouble prizing him away. Well he didn’t exactly commit himself to us today. ’Leverage’. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zico martin 89 Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 2 hours ago, ewerk said: Well he didn’t exactly commit himself to us today. ’Leverage’. And what could be gained by him letting Ashley know that he is definitely staying no matter what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30602 Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 Well exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essembeeofsunderland 811 Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 If Rafa goes this summer,doesn't Ashley receive compensation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zico martin 89 Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 51 minutes ago, ewerk said: Well exactly. Sorry yes i overlooked your 'leverage' comment. Doh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 3355 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/apr/22/rafael-benitez-mike-ashley-newcastle-united Quote Rafael Benítez seeks backing from Mike Ashley before extending Newcastle stay • Manager warns he cannot always perform ‘miracles’ every year • Club expected to finish in the top half despite inexperienced squad Rafael Benítez has warned Mike Ashley that the Newcastle United owner should not expect him to perform “miracles” every season and made it clear he will need convincing that his ambitions can be met on Tyneside before extending a contract now entering its final year. Newcastle head to Everton on Monday night, safe from relegation and on course for a top-10 finish following four successive wins. Considering the shallowness and inexperience of Benítez’s squad that represents a significant achievement for a team promoted only last spring but the former Liverpool and Real Madrid manager now wants to raise the bar appreciably and try to win trophies on Tyneside. Before agreeing a new deal, Benítez will demand assurances that Ashley feels the same way. “If they [Ashley’s representatives] want to talk to my people [about a new contract] they can talk,” the 58-year-old said. “The main thing is to be sure we share the same ambition. “I want to win games and I want to win trophies and I want to have the tools to be capable of competing. At the same time. I like to improve players, coach players, follow a business plan, a realistic business plan in modern football. I have no problem with that because I did it in the past. “We have to be sure to have all the tools to compete and achieve what we want to achieve because Newcastle is a massive football club and we want it to reach its potential.” The fear is that Ashley will be content with this season’s mid-table finish and believe that Benítez can improve on it with similarly limited resources next term. “I cannot do miracles every year,” the Spaniard said. “You need the tools to be sure you can do your job, to be sure you can win. It’s not just ‘oh, the manager is calm, he has vast experience,’ because I don’t play. We need experience on the pitch. We can improve a lot of things. “My objective is not to finish ninth, it is to win titles and cups. To be in the top four, to win trophies, to win the league, or whatever, that’s I want to do. Not just survive or finish in mid-table. I want to be sure we can fight for trophies.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21915 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 He’s saying all the right things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30602 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 With the club still up for sale is Mike Ashley going to offer any guarantees other than he can have what the club generates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Unlikely, but I don't think Benitez is looking for investment over and above what the club generates. Nice to hear him say he wants titles, get bored of the "wif the right investment noocarrsle could be top eight" stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21915 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Could be top 8 without any investment tbf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Sadly I don’t think there’s a chance of him staying under the current set up. A chance he might with a new owner or big budget, but there will be plenty of more ambitious clubs sniffing around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 He'll sign a new deal this summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, TheGingerQuiff said: He'll sign a new deal this summer Only if Ashley gives him what he needs this time. He's achieved to phases of his project with little investment for him to push on & complete phase 3 he needs some financial backing with out it i think he'll be off. As CT says there'll be plenty sniffing round for his services. The ball is in Ashleys court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5220 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 I think the club will make enough money in the PL, and by being a tightly run ship in general by Ashley, that there should be enough for Rafa to spend going forward. It depends on what he thinks he needs, but it's hard to imagine him thinking that the club is going to (or indeed should be) spending £100m each season. We need to sort out a new contract for him this summer either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30602 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 I can't see him signing anything until the transfer window is closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Asked now if he can ‘trust’ Mike Ashley, Rafa Benitez took the diplomatic route and instead said ‘I think the answer is…that Everton is the next game, and I have to prepare for that’. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2204 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 I doubt trust has anything to do with it. It’s whether he gets the support he needs to get the players he wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 1 hour ago, ewerk said: I can't see him signing anything until the transfer window is closed. Aye, maybe it's the takeover that Quiff is hinting at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 3355 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 3 hours ago, Dr Gloom said: He’s saying all the right things @Dr Gloom time for you to hit your itk guy up. With the club safe from relegation Mandy should be making moves again if they are serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 31 minutes ago, adios said: Aye, maybe it's the takeover that Quiff is hinting at. Nah I think any signings will want assurances over Benitez's future so they'll sort something out before then. There'll likely be stuff in it to protect him from getting fucked over though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Benitez has drive & ambition & wants to win trophies. Ashley couldnt give a shit as long as we're in the Premiership & he's getting his free fortnightly worldwide advertising for SD.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 1 minute ago, trooper said: Benitez has drive & ambition & wants to win trophies. Ashley couldnt give a shit as long as we're in the Premiership & he's getting his free fortnightly worldwide advertising for SD.. If he can achieve success on a sensible business model I think he'd opt for that rather than not opt for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 31 minutes ago, TheGingerQuiff said: Nah I think any signings will want assurances over Benitez's future so they'll sort something out before then. There'll likely be stuff in it to protect him from getting fucked over though Good point. I guess Mandy better get things sorted quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 4 hours ago, adios said: Good point. I guess Mandy better get things sorted quickly. I think that ship sailed into the sunset when Ashley publicly called them timewasters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21915 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 of course you think that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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