wolfy 12 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Ant said: Simeone when he took over they were only after selling aguero and spent over £100m on players like arda turan and falcao, alderwield after that he's spent again another 300 million over three more seasons on the likes of Griezman, Manduzsic , gaitan, carrasco, Gamerio, Jackson Martienez etc how the fuck do you think they got a FFP transfer ban? @wolfy you haven't a fucking clue Who mentioned Atletico Madrid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelie 103 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 C'mon Rafa, heads-up, wake-up, if yer ganna mess aroond wi the line-up aal the time, gan back te basics. Out's worth a try ye knaa. Goalie Right Fullback Left Fullback Centre Halfback Left Halfback Right Halfback Outside Left Inside left Centre Forward Insight Right Outside Right Before you laugh, especially if yer not owld enough to remember, nearly all our notable big wins were with this formation, 1st Division & FA Cups. In my early years of playing football there was no other way, everybody played that way. For those who talk about 2 up front, how about 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35077 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 3 hours ago, wolfy said: Who mentioned Atletico Madrid? Rattled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2017/aug/25/newcastle-united-rafael-benitez-mike-ashley-signings Apparently Keith Bishop was at his press conference the other night. Unbelievable that it's all falling apart so quickly. Sure we expected it eventually but fucking hell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30598 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 I think most of us said after relegation and after Rafa's meeting with Ashley in May that he must have been promised significant funds to stay on. That clearly isn't going to happen so I wouldn't be surprised in the least if he fucks off in early September. And if he does that it will be a long hard slog to stay up this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30598 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 And I wouldn't read too much into Bishop being at the press conference. It's not like Rafa would have been intimidated by his presence and if Bishop did want to review what was said then it wouldn't have been difficult to get a tape of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Why else would he be there though? I think he'll leave at first opportunity if a more ambitious club want him. Probably West Ham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30598 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 He's our PR consultant. Not that strange for him to attend a press conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 I thought he was Ashley's personal PR consultant. Isn't that Taylor bint the club's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30598 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 I think the club now pay his firm for consulting work. Mike Ashley also happens to have a stake in that firm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 11 hours ago, Ant said: ah sorry i assumed it was the club where he was successful, sooo you want to go further back then, so was it the few months he spent at the previous two clubs (one in italy can't remember which)? or was it when he walked from San Lorenzo before he was pushed when he had them free falling and was getting load of abuse for it? or was it when he was successful with River Plate one of the strongest most well-established teams in Argentina that you're referring to where he turned their fortunes around where they had "good" players like Falcao and Sanchez run off back to the conspiracy boards or at least out the football section, you're beyond outta your depth I was asked to name a manager. I named one. It's not about running back to anywhere to do anything. Accept what I say, or don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7025 Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 More importantly, how can Fish think we played 4231 for 46 games last season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawb 4248 Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Formations aren't static. When written down it could be a 4411 or a 4231, in that it's a 4411 when defending and a 4231 when attacking. It will be the same the entire time Rafa is here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil 6 Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 I'm pinning all my hope of Rafa staying to a resignation clause in his contract. Keegan Quote The award could conceivably have been higher but the panel deemed that a clause in Keegan's contract imposing a £2m compensation ceiling on any pay-off in the event of his dismissal or resignation to be enforceable. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2009/oct/02/kevin-keegan-constructive-dismissal-newcastle Pardew Quote "Steve Parish met the clause in my contract and therefore I had a decision to make." http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/alan-pardew-opens-up-left-8407022 Quote Palace triggered the £3.5 million release clause in his Newcastle contract to give him “a decision to make”. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/crystal-palace/11334443/Crystal-Palaces-Alan-Pardew-reveals-difficulties-of-Newcastle-job.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted August 26, 2017 Author Share Posted August 26, 2017 I wonder what tactics we'll use today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 20 hours ago, The Fish said: Like who? Name for me a top contemporary manager that built a team of decent players into a team of top players? The quote above is what fish asked for, Ant. Simeone is on the map right now as a top manager because he did exactly that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10856 Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, Kid Dynamite said: More importantly, how can Fish think we played 4231 for 46 games last season? As Strawb says below your post a 4-2-3-1 can morph into a 4-4-1-1 if the wingers play further back. It can also shift in 4-1-2-2-1 if one of the centre mids drop fully into a DM position and the #10 drops back into midfield as an attacking midfielder. That flexibility is probably why Benites favours the 4-2-3-1 formation. Edited August 26, 2017 by The Fish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10856 Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 4 minutes ago, wolfy said: The quote above is what fish asked for, Ant. Simeone is on the map right now as a top manager because he did exactly that. Ant just showed how that assertion isn't true. Pay attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Just now, The Fish said: Ant just showed how that assertion isn't true. Pay attention. Maybe you should pay attention...and Ant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 I think someone has taken what they've read about Simeone and hasn't questioned it. Awkward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10856 Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 1 minute ago, The Fish said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10856 Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Rattled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Just now, The Fish said: Rattled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Can this be contained to one (unimportant) thread, please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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