acrossthepond 877 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Assault, plain and simple. Gets worse every time you watch it, I cannot believe Martinez defended that hatchet job of a tackle or the scum who made it. I remember that match now. They scored a late winner from a handball. Everything about that game was terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22095 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 no intent wasn't it? wanker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10906 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 "not that kind of player" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35431 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Dave Whelan defending him despite not long before that bemoaning the tackle that saw Whelan himself miss the cup final back when he was a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10906 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 https://youtu.be/CKFKWRSJdR0?t=72 Not that kind of player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 I'm just going to say it. He's woeful in the transfer market Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 At least he's generally looked at positions that need strengthening. Really worrying that we're still playing a back 4 that could have started last season though. Still look as shambolic against the weaker teams in this division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 It's really concerning. We didn't just need depth we needed quality and especially for what has been spent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7084 Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Who ate all the paella. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Off his Rioja. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@yourservice 67 Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 Totally Pisto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I ♥ Daddys Cock 0 Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 Mr Relegation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 I'm just going to say it. He's woeful in the transfer market Is he the one bringing players in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobos 298 Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 I think 20 mil for 3 (British?) players is a bargain tbh. Its not 2010 prices anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1260 Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Is he the one bringing players in?We're not still asking that question are we? I think it's obvious these are his players. From what Hayden said when he signed, Rafa knew all about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 We're not still asking that question are we? I think it's obvious these are his players. From what Hayden said when he signed, Rafa knew all about him. I'll never completely trust Ashley. I hope and assume they're his players. I'm just not entirely sure what's more worrying, that the club might be foisting players on him, or that he's spent over £10m on defenders and has been unable to add anyone capable of breaking into what was an abysmal back line anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1260 Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 I'll never completely trust Ashley. I hope and assume they're his players. I'm just not entirely sure what's more worrying, that the club might be foisting players on him, or that he's spent over £10m on defenders and has been unable to add anyone capable of breaking into what was an abysmal back line anyway. Our defence was looking a lot more secure at the end of last season under Benitez when Lascelles was brought in. So in that sense I can understand why there's not been much in the way of changes. Like I mentioned on another thread, we still have a lot of players who have been here for the last two seasons when we've been awful. Their confidence is still low and their heads are dropping easily. I think he should look at bring in Gamez into the back four. After spending the last two seasons with Athletico you would assume his confidence would be a lot higher than the rest. I'm surprised we've seen nothing of him so far but I can't imagine it will be long before we do. Of course getting Dummett out of the team has to be a priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Our defence was looking a lot more secure at the end of last season under Benitez when Lascelles was brought in. So in that sense I can understand why there's not been much in the way of changes. Like I mentioned on another thread, we still have a lot of players who have been here for the last two seasons when we've been awful. Their confidence is still low and their heads are dropping easily. I think he should look at bring in Gamez into the back four. After spending the last two seasons with Athletico you would assume his confidence would be a lot higher than the rest. I'm surprised we've seen nothing of him so far but I can't imagine it will be long before we do. Of course getting Dummett out of the team has to be a priority. Gamez only played 7 games last year. Wonder how fit he'd be for playing every 4 days in a league that moves at twice the pace. I'd put him ahead of Dummet like, just not sure it would work out with Aarons ahead of him. Whisper it, but i fear you'd need Gouffran doubling back to help him out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1260 Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Gamez only played 7 games last year. Wonder how fit he'd be for playing every 4 days in a league that moves at twice the pace. I'd put him ahead of Dummet like, just not sure it would work out with Aarons ahead of him. Whisper it, but i fear you'd need Gouffran doubling back to help him out. That might be the reason he's not played yet. But we don't necessarily need him to play that often (at least at first). Got to be worth a go on one side or the other. I don't buy that we'd need someone like Gouffran in for defensive assistence. We've played with a defensive midfielder wide both games and we've conceeded. Personally I think we'd be better off looking to blitz the opposition with two wingers. I think we have the ability to not worry about the opposition, we just need to push on more ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 That might be the reason he's not played yet. But we don't necessarily need him to play that often (at least at first). Got to be worth a go on one side or the other. I don't buy that we'd need someone like Gouffran in for defensive assistence. We've played with a defensive midfielder wide both games and we've conceeded. Personally I think we'd be better off looking to blitz the opposition with two wingers. I think we have the ability to not worry about the opposition, we just need to push on more ourselves. I'm not so sure. Aarons and Anita as opposed to Ginola and Gillespie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1260 Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Well I was thinking more Ritchie and Aarons/new signing. I'd never have Anita in my team. He's fucking awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrossthepond 877 Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Well I was thinking more Ritchie and Aarons/new signing. I'd never have Anita in my team. He's fucking awful. A regular starter for our PL sides who now looks like fucking dirge in the Championship. We bang on about Sissoko being a lazy cunt and stealing a living but what has Anita been up to for the past 3 and a half years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 A regular starter for our PL sides who now looks like fucking dirge in the Championship. We bang on about Sissoko being a lazy cunt and stealing a living but what has Anita been up to for the past 3 and a half years? I suppose it's not Anita's fault he got bought by us, I get the point though but I think Sissoko gets jip because he can be an effective player when he tries plus he's been touting himself about in the press for 2 year which is canny insulting. Anita tries it's just the bloke is utterly fucking shit, he arguably doesn't suit the pace etc of the English league. We've got a list of fucking cloggers who we shouldn't have tbh, Anita, Colback, Gouffran, Riviere, Dummett etc, it's hard to really have dislike for them because they do try but keep getting selected despite being shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1260 Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 A regular starter for our PL sides who now looks like fucking dirge in the Championship. We bang on about Sissoko being a lazy cunt and stealing a living but what has Anita been up to for the past 3 and a half years?Anita puts the effort in, he's just lacking in ability. And he doesn't go on about being a champions league player all the time. But there's none of our players in the last two or three seasons who have greatly impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrossthepond 877 Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 You're both right, that came off harsher towards Anita than I meant it. It's not his fault that he's rubbish. But it's an indictment of our transfer policy over the last 4-5 years. After all those years of listening to endless crap about value for money and wiping our noses and the horse and that cart and all that tiresome shit, we've spent and lost money on so many fucking plums it's unreal. Both de Jongs? Saivet? Ferreyra? Riviere? Doumbia? Marveaux? Gosling? Amalfitano? How many appearances do those clowns actually have between them all? Twenty? And the list actually goes on, there's Williamson and Gouffran and a new contract for Coloccini and Anita and and and. Sickening really. Nothing coming through from the youth teams either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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