trophyshy 7083 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 (edited) A bit like getting sold a job that's nothing like it was advertised as, the only way to motivate our players seems to be to make them think they've a chance of leaving! performances from Sissoko are always mentioned but I think the same could be said for most of our squad, coming up to a transfer window - with the exception of Perez, Colo, Janmaat, Anita and Dummett who do seem consistent at least. (consistently shite in some cases). I think we'll lose , as its a "low ranked" team. Aye the player's won't be able to motivate themselves to play this lot. There'll be 5 or 10 minutes of 'action' with a couple of chances which will be woefully wasted and then Berahino will get a quick brace and we'll disappear. It is the manager's job to offer tactics, advice and motivation. When there's a big fuck up in a company it isn't all the staff who carry the can, the gaffer has the responsibility for the team. McClaren is unable to get through to them, just like he couldn't with a very decent England squad. I think we should give his FC Twente translator the job. Edited February 5, 2016 by trophyshy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 I think even the best coaches struggle when you can't put the ball in the net. The best strikers struggle when starved of service Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4729 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 The best strikers struggle when starved of service But we don't have any "best strikers". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5226 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 But we don't have any "best strikers". We don't have any decent players full stop at the minute. I tend to share the consensus here that this isn't really Mitrovic's fault. It's a team failing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 But we don't have any "best strikers". How do you reach that conclusion? The fans start to point the finger at McClaren and guess who pops up to defend him... do you think anybody can take your views seriously after revealing you hadn't heard of Townsend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Mitrovic has been one of our better players this season. Idiots that don't understand centre forward play can't see it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 80 mil less is a harsh comment - its only been 1 week since we spent 50 hasn't it? 50m? we spent around 28m in jan didn't we? 12m on Townsend, same on Shelvey and 4m on Saivet. He has also had 2 of those players for 3 games now. I think it's far from harsh, look at the (rightful) grief Carver got and he got 13 points from 19 games (4 draws, 3 wins, 12 losses), McClaren's first 19 games we got 17 points (4 wins, 5 draws and 10 losses), McClaren had basically the same squad as Carver except with the additions of Wijnaldum, Thauvin, Mitrovic and Mbemba (47mish in total). I fully blame that fat cunt Ashley for the squad but even then the current lot should definately be doing better than they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 It's not a case of slating Mitrovic it's just where we are. We simply have no strikers available who can regularly score. Unless that changes we're down. But that is what you are doing, if Mitrovic and the other forwards had more chances they would be scoring more goals. Currently Mitrovic comes on gets a good chance and misses, he is then either hauled off or dropped for the following game, how can he get into any sort of scoring form? If we were creating 4 or 5 good scoring chances every game and he was fluffing the 3 that fell to him every week then you could brand him as a striker who can't hit a barn door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4729 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Mitrovic has been one of our better players this season. Idiots that don't understand centre forward play can't see it He's got potential and parts of his forward play are ok. Scoring isn't (yet). That's not blaming Mitrovich so stop crying Ideally he should have a top forward up alongside him or he should be learning from the bench. (As would be the case at most clubs). With 14 games to go, goals, not his development is the priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 You're so fucking thick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4729 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 But that is what you are doing, if Mitrovic and the other forwards had more chances they would be scoring more goals. Currently Mitrovic comes on gets a good chance and misses, he is then either hauled off or dropped for the following game, how can he get into any sort of scoring form? If we were creating 4 or 5 good scoring chances every game and he was fluffing the 3 that fell to him every week then you could brand him as a striker who can't hit a barn door. He's had a good run in the team and was regularly missing chances. The game one or two before this in particular. Given our situation it's understandable that a coach would want to try mixing things up to get goals. I couldn't care less if Rivière and Doumbia play til the end of the season if it brings goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44986 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Nowt more informative than reading CT's football posts. You don't expect to learn this much on a Friday night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 He's had a good run in the team and was regularly missing chances. The game one or two before this in particular. Given our situation it's understandable that a coach would want to try mixing things up to get goals. I couldn't care less if Rivière and Doumbia play til the end of the season if it brings goals. His 'good run' is him in and out of the side tbh. We barely create chances and that is the key problem to the side, as Ewerk said we're 17th in the league for chances created, if we were creating plenty of chances a game and he was fluffing everything then he would be to blame but him having barely any chances week to week means he's really struggling. McClaren 'mixing things up' against Everton was thick and it cost us the game from kick off, we had no focal point to the attack despite finally having a winger who could get the ball into him. McClaren is rightfully shouldering a lot of the blame right now, the strikers aren't prolific but with more chances they are definitely capable enough to win us games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30656 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Can someone please burn this thread so I never have to read it again? Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhh_yeah 2968 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Possible debut to Jamie Sterry or Liam Gibson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Possible debut to Jamie Sterry or Liam Gibson. I think McClaren said today he'd drafted in 3 under 21s to the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21961 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Good. They can't be any worse than the shite they're replacing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7034 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 CTs knowledge of football and coaching is pretty special mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21961 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 He can pick a player too mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33270 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Easy to say, and Christ we've said it before, but ULTIMATELY the blame lies with the owner. 100%. He's had plenty of notice that his lackey isn't up to the job, (I think he's quite comfortable with that, he supposedly steps in anyway when it's 'important' financially). McClaren gets what he's given and takes it because of ultimate problem, Ashley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7083 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Signs of life or death rattle today? We've no defence and at home so he's got to go for it you'd think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21961 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 So which other losers are going to spoil their Saturday afternoon by watching this shower? Raises hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35109 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 I would say it's not his fault we have strikers who can't hit a barn door or his fault he hasn't got better strikers to put out. He's had us playing very well at times with chances going begging. Plenty of players who have let him down. statistically we don't create many chances so that completely destroys that argument Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 So which other losers are going to spoil their Saturday afternoon by watching this shower? Raises hand. Aye I'll be watching it while keeping an eye on the Norwich v Villa game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5226 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Don't think we can expect any favours from Villa, they'll be resigned to it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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