Donald Trump

[Gemmill 44323]

Just now, Renton said:

 

I think you're missing the point. You can do all these things, or try to. It will still affect you though. Whether it's a Russian nuke, a storm or flood worsened by climate change, your finances wrecked through the world economy realigning, or the rise of fascism on your door step. 

 

So how specifically is this affecting my day today? 

[ewerk 30234]

At the risk of going all tinfoil hat, does this not seem a bit strange?

 

[Renton 21246]

2 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

 

So how specifically is this affecting my day today? 

 

When you said today, you were being literal?

You will be affected in the future, by a possie multitude of ways some of which I have described. The US is simply too big to be ignored unfortunately. 

[Gemmill 44323]

1 minute ago, ewerk said:

At the risk of going all tinfoil hat, does this not seem a bit strange?

 

 

When you combine it with him saying a few weeks back "don't worry about the votes, we've got the votes", aye maybe. 

[Ayatollah Hermione 13784]

Gemmill won’t be sent to fight in the war for natural resources due to his dodgy heart tbf so he might actually be alright 

[Gemmill 44323]

1 minute ago, Renton said:

 

When you said today, you were being literal?

You will be affected in the future, by a possie multitude of ways some of which I have described. The US is simply too big to be ignored unfortunately. 

 

 

Yes I was being literal. Today is literally where we all live. 

[Renton 21246]

Just now, Gemmill said:

 

 

Yes I was being literal. Today is literally where we all live. 

 

Ah, okay then. I mean I suppose if your perspective is literally day to day, you might not notice the incremental changes, if you remember to forget what yesterday was like. 

What a silly thing to say. 

[Gemmill 44323]

1 minute ago, Renton said:

 

Ah, okay then. I mean I suppose if your perspective is literally day to day, you might not notice the incremental changes, if you remember to forget what yesterday was like. 

What a silly thing to say. 

 

Yep a much more sensible approach would he to spend the day worrying about a nuke landing on my forehead or a flood washing away my house. That's the way to live. 

[Renton 21246]

5 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

 

Yep a much more sensible approach would he to spend the day worrying about a nuke landing on my forehead or a flood washing away my house. That's the way to live. 

 

It's not a good way to live, I know. But unfortunately I just can't live my life in ignorance no matter what I try. Wish I could. BTW, I don't think for a second you can either. 

 

It's not the point I'm making though. There is a reality, a truth, and you'll be affected by it whether you recognise it or not. Maybe you can block your mind to it, good for you. But one day it will come knocking at the door. 

 

Edit: take last night. I sensed things weren't good at midnight. Gave myself a media blackout for 7 hours. 7 am shit is more real than ever. And I couldn't even sleep in those 7 hours. 

Edited 1 hour ago by Renton

[ewerk 30234]

1 minute ago, Renton said:

 

It's not a good way to live, I know. But unfortunately I just can't live my life in ignorance no matter what I try. Wish I could. BTW, I don't think for a second you can either. 

 

It's not the point I'm making though. There is a reality, a truth, and you'll be affected by it whether you recognise it or not. Maybe you can block your mind to it, good for you. But one day it will come knocking at the door. 

 

Why worry about something you have zero control over?

[Renton 21246]

Just now, ewerk said:

 

Why worry about something you have zero control over?

 

Is this a serious question? We all worry all the time over things we have iittle or no control over. If I get terminal cancer, I'm going to be worried, fuck all I can do about it. Worry is a normal part of life for most people. Yeah, I have anxiety which makes it worse, I do appreciate that. 

[Ayatollah Hermione 13784]

I think we’d all worry if we got terminal cancer but we don’t spend all day worrying that we MIGHT get it one day. I think that’s the distinction.

 

I think the saving grace in that fucking insane country is that, often, whoever gets in is just one cheek of the same arse but it’s more the implications on the rest of the planet I’m worried about. But things glided along on a knives edge last time and probably will again while the world burns 

[wykikitoon 19872]

Renton, buy a copy of the Daily Stoic

[Gemmill 44323]

7 minutes ago, Renton said:

 

It's not a good way to live, I know. But unfortunately I just can't live my life in ignorance no matter what I try. Wish I could. BTW, I don't think for a second you can either. 

 

It's not the point I'm making though. There is a reality, a truth, and you'll be affected by it whether you recognise it or not. Maybe you can block your mind to it, good for you. But one day it will come knocking at the door. 

 

Edit: take last night. I sensed things weren't good at midnight. Gave myself a media blackout for 7 hours. 7 am shit is more real than ever. And I couldn't even sleep in those 7 hours. 

 

The day it knocks on the door is the day you deal with it. There's signal and there's noise. This affecting me personally may come one day, but in the meantime I can cut out all of the noise really easily by not listening to podcasts that obsess about this stuff, not watching the news, and not doing social media. That removes all of the OMG HES GONNA DO THIS! THEN HE'S GONNA DO THAT! IT'S GONNA BE SO BAD! 

 

If the will is there you can cut all of that noise out of your life. I'm not saying you can avoid it altogether. You'll see paper headlines or whatever but you can remove the vast vast majority of it. 

 

If you want to.

[Holden McGroin 6497]

America is so diverse in its intellect and thinking. It’s 50 countries within a country. 
 

Sadly a lot of them are thick as mince but then you could label the UK like that now. Social media is the worst thing to happen to society.

Edited 1 hour ago by Holden McGroin

[ewerk 30234]

8 minutes ago, Renton said:

 

Is this a serious question? We all worry all the time over things we have iittle or no control over. If I get terminal cancer, I'm going to be worried, fuck all I can do about it. Worry is a normal part of life for most people. Yeah, I have anxiety which makes it worse, I do appreciate that. 

Trump will at most have a tangential impact on your life. Now if you were a woman in the US looking an abortion or someone living in the Ukraine I can understand how it would have a much bigger impact but the fact is that all of us are much more insulated from it.

[sammynb 3352]

5 minutes ago, Ayatollah Hermione said:

while the world burns 

 

As of now, this is happening quicker than if those that recognised it is coming, had of been elected.

Even the cunt named Elon is happy to drop his beliefs on climate change for the orange fool's promise of less taxes and union busting.

Forget any targets that have been worked towards, let the drilling begin.

[Holden McGroin 6497]

Things could be worse lads. I've just been clipping my finger nails and one of them landed in my coffee.

 

 

[sammynb 3352]

1 minute ago, Holden McGroin said:

Things could be worse lads. I've just been clipping my finger nails and one of them landed in my coffee.

 

 

When CC kills all the crops, you'll be pinning for such protein.

[Ayatollah Hermione 13784]

1 minute ago, sammynb said:

 

As of now, this is happening quicker than if those that recognised it is coming, had of been elected.

Even the cunt named Elon is happy to drop his beliefs on climate change for the orange fool's promise of less taxes and union busting.

Forget any targets that have been worked towards, let the drilling begin.

Not to mention his obsession with AI which is currently using more energy than most of the world combined. Make sure to recycle your cans though, lads 

[Gemmill 44323]

My lass washes everything before it goes in the recycle bin.

 

I need to take her to the tip one day so she can see how fucking spick and span they keep it. 

[Toonpack 9190]

7 minutes ago, Renton said:

 

I think you're missing the point. You can do all these things, or try to. It will still affect you though. Whether it's a Russian nuke, a storm or flood worsened by climate change, your finances wrecked through the world economy realigning, or the rise of fascism on your door step. 

 

The cunt has won the presidency, Senate, house of representatives, the Supreme Court and the popular vote. Trump is unhinged and there are theocratic autocrats in the wings. The World is a different darker place than it was. The enlightenment is in reversal. It will affect your day to day life, whether you like it or not. And definitely affect your children. 

 

It can effect my day to day life as much as it wants, I'll deal with it when whatever it is, is in front of me, I dealt with the death of my youngest son, 4 years ago next week as it happens, I sure as hell can deal with anything the world may want to throw at me.

 

I henceforth, categorically refuse to waste breath, or thought, on shit I can't control. Let the fuckers get on with it.

 

If I was younger, and me and the Mrs have had this conversation, there's no fucking way I'd now bring kids into this world. My eldest can face his day to day as best he can, I'll support him as I can, but the "big picture" can fuck off. I have lost my last shred of hope that there is an underlying decency in wider humanity, just look at the state of the place.

 

The bad guys have won (again) as they usually do. Encouraged by a moronic US administration, Reform will likely win or at least become establishec in our next election, in the wider context we are fucked, a pissant little island self isolated from our neighbours. Labour have zero chance of turning this place around in 5 years now.

 

We're not fucked today, we won't be fucked next week, next month or next year to a particularly noticeable degree.

 

Maybe I am a tad over-emotional about it all as it's a tough time of year in this house now and through Christmas, but I am tuning out any and all socio-economic/political noise.

 

Fuck it.

[Holden McGroin 6497]

2 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

My lass washes everything before it goes in the recycle bin.

 

I need to take her to the tip one day so she can see how fucking spick and span they keep it. 

 

Mine puts empty tins of cat food in the dishwasher. She does live in her own world so not sure if its on purrrrrrr-pose or not.

 

Edited 1 hour ago by Holden McGroin

[AgentAxeman 169]

22 minutes ago, ewerk said:

 

Why worry about something you have zero control over?

This tbh

[Dr Gloom 21804]

Well done, America.

 

We can debate how stupid they are from our ivory towers. Ultimately it was won on the economy. Inflation has brought down ruling parties all over the world and it did for the Democrats.

 

Could they have won with a different candidate?  I thought Kamala was impressive but again it appears the yanks aren’t ready for a woman president. Would a strong male candidate have made a difference? I doubt it. The truth is most US voters don’t really care if Ukraine falls or what an emboldened Russia means for Europe. They care about food prices. 

Edited 1 hour ago by Dr Gloom