Donald Trump

[Alex 37215]

Fucking dweebs

[Gemmill 51041]

This is worth a watch btw. 

 

 

[Gemmill 51041]

Probably the wrong thread for it, maybe. 

[Rayvin 6100]

I'm going to add that when I first joined here in my mid 20s, I was leaning toward all of this noise. I had my own insecurities from various childhood traumas that some of this anti-feminist/SJW stuff fed into and I found it quite validating at the time to see people push back against things that made me feel attacked.

 

In the end it was actually Brexit that saved me from it tbh - that was the first time I really appreciated how many of these people were just straight up lying to me. Once the mask slipped I found I could suddenly see all of it for what it was, I went into therapy and properly dealt with my insecurity and the warped perspectives it could sometimes take me to. But I suspect it's that basic issue across a lot of people that makes this stuff so successful. It validates them when they feel attacked.

 

Anyway, some of these guys ended up with huge platforms off the back of all of it, and several of them were amongst those exposed as having been on Russian payroll a year or so ago. I guess we don't know exactly when that started but even so, Russia either saw a huge opportunity in this or instigated it.

[Renton 24153]

2 hours ago, Alex said:

Fucking dweebs

 

They're not fucking, that's the issue. 

[Toonpack 11758]

The Atlantic have published the text exchange by the cunts

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/03/signal-group-chat-attack-plans-hegseth-goldberg/682176/?utm_source=bluesky&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=the-atlantic&utm_content=edit-promo

[Dr Gloom 23918]

2 hours ago, Rayvin said:

I'm going to add that when I first joined here in my mid 20s, I was leaning toward all of this noise. I had my own insecurities from various childhood traumas that some of this anti-feminist/SJW stuff fed into and I found it quite validating at the time to see people push back against things that made me feel attacked.

 

In the end it was actually Brexit that saved me from it tbh - that was the first time I really appreciated how many of these people were just straight up lying to me. Once the mask slipped I found I could suddenly see all of it for what it was, I went into therapy and properly dealt with my insecurity and the warped perspectives it could sometimes take me to. But I suspect it's that basic issue across a lot of people that makes this stuff so successful. It validates them when they feel attacked.

 

Anyway, some of these guys ended up with huge platforms off the back of all of it, and several of them were amongst those exposed as having been on Russian payroll a year or so ago. I guess we don't know exactly when that started but even so, Russia either saw a huge opportunity in this or instigated it.

 

i remember having ding dongs with you and parky back in the day about jordan peterson and sargon of akkad. i can see how a lot of what they were pushing was seductive for angry young men but they always made me feel uneasy, particularly sargon aka carl benjamin, who struck me as a smug, sad creep.

 

you're not wrong about the mask slipping. that carl benjamin bloke later ran as an MP for the ukip and has since outed himself a far-right racist

[Gemmill 51041]

 

This lad has properly got it in for Rogan and the Roganverse. These are like Adam Curtis doing Rogan takedowns.

 

[Rayvin 6100]

1 minute ago, Dr Gloom said:

 

i remember having ding dongs with you and parky back in the day about jordan peterson and sargon of akkad. i can see how a lot of what they were pushing was seductive for angry young men but they always made me feel uneasy, particularly sargon aka carl benjamin, who struck me as a smug, sad creep.

 

you're not wrong about the mask slipping. that carl benjamin bloke later ran as an MP for the ukip and has since outed himself a far-right racist

 

Yeah and he always kinda was, but the reality at the heart of it is that they are speaking to a genuine issue, just in a really unhelpful way. They would hold up the most extreme "woke" positions, suggest they were literally around the corner for lived reality, and then tear them apart. And on that stuff, they were right... but that stuff is like super fringe, really unrepresentative material. In the end my view was that both sides were extreme positions who needed each other to survive, and I think that remains the case even now. Trump is always harping on about the radical left, it's just that he's thrown that blanket over a lot more people than actually exist within it. I mean I didn't wake up from that and realise that the other side was right, I just woke up and realised that neither side were living in reality.

 

Peterson for me at least was a difficult one because a lot of his psych stuff was genuinely helpful to me. I mean he's a wreck now anyway, all this has totaled him mentally. I don't actually think he was really one of the ringleaders or anything, just someone who tried to ride the wave and was consumed.

 

The other seductive aspect to all this is the harnessing of a very real and very frustrated desire to just change the shit that we live in. I think that resonates for a lot of people - the right harnessed it, the left were beaten back.

[Rayvin 6100]

9 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

 

This lad has properly got it in for Rogan and the Roganverse. These are like Adam Curtis doing Rogan takedowns.

 

 

I actually don't have a very informed view of Rogan, but people talk about him like he's the arbiter of common sense. He seems hugely significant in politics now in an almost Oprah like way.

[Gemmill 51041]

1 minute ago, Rayvin said:

 

I actually don't have a very informed view of Rogan, but people talk about him like he's the arbiter of common sense. He seems hugely significant in politics now in an almost Oprah like way.

 

Nah, he's fully down the rabbit hole. The video I posted this morning is a pretty good summary of what's happened to him. 

 

He was always a thick stoner idiot, but while he was just making dick jokes and talking about UFC, that was fine. 

 

But Covid basically broke him, and now he  exists in his own universe in Austin, owns a comedy club, and has a set of idiot comedians that rely on him for their future careers. 

 

You're right that he's massively influential though. Which is the ultimate indictment of where we are as a species. 

[Renton 24153]

 

 

 

 

I mean, the US just gets more batshit by the day. Not only were 6th January insurrectionists wrongly imprisoned and released, they were heroes who will now be compensated. As for the brave security defending the Capitol that day? They had better watch their backs. 

[Gemmill 51041]

I've just watched a video of Tulsi Gabbard asked if she thinks it's responsible of her, as head of the intelligence community, to retweet people affiliated with Russian state media. 

 

Her answer: that was from my personal account. 

 

 

[Toonpack 11758]

10 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

I've just watched a video of Tulsi Gabbard asked if she thinks it's responsible of her, as head of the intelligence community, to retweet people affiliated with Russian state media. 

 

Her answer: that was from my personal account. 

 

 

I’m only a Russian asset on my own time, seems legit

[ewerk 33595]

36 minutes ago, Renton said:

 

 

 

 

I mean, the US just gets more batshit by the day. Not only were 6th January insurrectionists wrongly imprisoned and released, they were heroes who will now be compensated. As for the brave security defending the Capitol that day? They had better watch their backs. 

 

Ashli Babbitt, one of the finest examples of fuck around and find out.

[Dazzler 12149]

42 minutes ago, Renton said:

 

 

 

 

I mean, the US just gets more batshit by the day. Not only were 6th January insurrectionists wrongly imprisoned and released, they were heroes who will now be compensated. As for the brave security defending the Capitol that day? They had better watch their backs. 

It's not really unthinkable like. He thought "if she doesn't fucking pack this in I'm going to shoot her"

 

 

...and then he shot her.

 

 

It's very thinkable.

[Rayvin 6100]

Once this fiasco is over with, how do the Democrats respond? Do they go back and imprison all these people again? Do they lock up the Trump administration. I personally think optics be damned, they should go for the entire fucking platform - but then I suppose it means the next time this comes up, Trump 2.0 will just do the same thing, like it normalises it.

[Renton 24153]

49 minutes ago, Rayvin said:

Once this fiasco is over with

 

Feel like that is uncharacteristically optimistic. 

One this fiasco is over and the surviving 3% of humanity arise from the ashes of global nuclear war, they will have other things on their mind. 

I actually read something even more depressing about humanity's fate. We have one shot at this. If we go back to the stone age, we're fucked, because unlike last time, we won't have any fossil fuels left to power the second industrial revolution we'll need. I mean we may have some blueprints to help us but we won't have the resources, at least not for another 60 million years, by which time the Sun will be getting rather hot. Explains the Fermi paradox.  

[ewerk 33595]

He’s putting a 25% tariff on all cars not made in the US. Bad news for the UK.

Edited Wednesday at 22:00 by ewerk

[Isegrim 10610]

 

[RobinRobin 12639]

4 hours ago, Isegrim said:

 

She is a prime example of a Trump crony.  Unfortunately for her, she isn't rich enough to be one of his inner circle cabinet members however much she tries.  

She couldn't be more classless if she tried (and I'm sure she will try).

Sums her up completely.

[Toonpack 11758]

Ok, I'm done, when's the meteor hit ? "Freedom seeds" 😳🙄

[Gemmill 51041]

That little fucking dweeb playing the hard lad.

 

These people are just funny to me. It's like live action South Park. 

[Dazzler 12149]

6 hours ago, RobinRobin said:

She is a prime example of a Trump crony.  Unfortunately for her, she isn't rich enough to be one of his inner circle cabinet members however much she tries.  

She couldn't be more classless if she tried (and I'm sure she will try).

Sums her up completely.

 

She's him and I can't unsee it.

[RobinRobin 12639]