Renton 24200 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Seems very obvious now. Looking for the complete surrender and carve up of Ukraine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 51244 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 According to that Katty Kay (fucking ridiculous name), Ukraine can survive max 6 to 12 months without US support, and it won't matter what Europe does. But surely if Europe decides it's just gonna spend all of the frozen Russian assets on weapons, they could wipe the floor with Russia. Which is what they'll have to do if needs be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 33655 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Where do they get the weapons from? It's not like there's huge stockpiles lying around Europe. It will take time to manufacture them, unless they can purchase them from America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 7771 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 1 hour ago, Gemmill said: The woman that's a candidate to take over from Trudeau says Canadian retaliation will be targeted in a way to cause maximum damage to the white house. Focused on products from all the states where Trump's base is. She also says it'll be 100% tariffs on Teslas. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 7771 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 1 minute ago, ewerk said: Where do they get the weapons from? It's not like there's huge stockpiles lying around Europe. It will take time to manufacture them, unless they can purchase them from America. We are edging closer to putting boots on ground. Fuck knows where America would stand on that if they carry on this allegiance with the Russians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 51244 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 5 minutes ago, ewerk said: Where do they get the weapons from? It's not like there's huge stockpiles lying around Europe. It will take time to manufacture them, unless they can purchase them from America. They'd buy them from America. Trump would be fine with that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 23342 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 For someone who's switched off from the world of Politics Gemmill is heavily involved in here 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 51244 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 If you followed my posts as closely as you SHOULD, you'd know I said I was back listening to the Rest is Politics US. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 24200 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 51244 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 That's a shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzler 12195 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 1 minute ago, Renton said: They probably just exploded without outside interference since they are utter plastic shit. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 11814 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 33655 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Well there goes the first amendment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 24200 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 (edited) My this Russiafication is happening at pace. Who'd have thought the first country to join the new USSR would be the USA? Edited March 4 by Renton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23963 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 2 hours ago, ewerk said: Where do they get the weapons from? It's not like there's huge stockpiles lying around Europe. It will take time to manufacture them, unless they can purchase them from America. all trump cares about is money tbh, so don't rule that out either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 24200 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Amusing to see Badenoch defend Vance and show herself to be a traitor. She's so incompetent she will let Farage squeal away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 33655 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Surely there's more money in exploiting Ukraine for their natural resources while selling them the weapons? His whole attitude to Ukraine seems to be fuelled by him being anti-Biden or anti-Zelensky. Either way the most powerful man on earth is showing himself to be a giant manbaby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23963 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Zelenskky has caved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 51244 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Not sure he had much alternative. I fucking hate Trump. I'm really looking forward to the day he dies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23963 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 6 minutes ago, Gemmill said: Not sure he had much alternative. I fucking hate Trump. I'm really looking forward to the day he dies. Russia have basically got four years now to do whatever the fuck they want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 51244 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 How do you figure that? We don't even know what the deal looks like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 51244 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 And clearly Zelensky knows that in the absence of US support, it's the end of his country. He wouldn't be doing this if he had an alternative. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23963 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 11 minutes ago, Gemmill said: How do you figure that? We don't even know what the deal looks like. it clearly won't contain any security guarantees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23963 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 34 minutes ago, Gemmill said: And clearly Zelensky knows that in the absence of US support, it's the end of his country. He wouldn't be doing this if he had an alternative. i think he's gambling on the minerals deal giving trump and economic interest in the country and an incentive to not want to see it levelled by Russia. not much of a guarantee, but he's been backed into a corner. so much for europe's coalition of the willing 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 51244 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 I don't think this has changed anything about what Europe now knows it has to do. It's just the timescales for that don't correlate to the timescales Zelensky is working to. If Zelensky ends up giving up territory to Putin and minerals to Trump, Ukraine has been completely shafted though, I know that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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