Alex 37287 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Fucking dweebs 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 51213 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 This is worth a watch btw. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 51213 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Probably the wrong thread for it, maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 6120 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 I'm going to add that when I first joined here in my mid 20s, I was leaning toward all of this noise. I had my own insecurities from various childhood traumas that some of this anti-feminist/SJW stuff fed into and I found it quite validating at the time to see people push back against things that made me feel attacked. In the end it was actually Brexit that saved me from it tbh - that was the first time I really appreciated how many of these people were just straight up lying to me. Once the mask slipped I found I could suddenly see all of it for what it was, I went into therapy and properly dealt with my insecurity and the warped perspectives it could sometimes take me to. But I suspect it's that basic issue across a lot of people that makes this stuff so successful. It validates them when they feel attacked. Anyway, some of these guys ended up with huge platforms off the back of all of it, and several of them were amongst those exposed as having been on Russian payroll a year or so ago. I guess we don't know exactly when that started but even so, Russia either saw a huge opportunity in this or instigated it. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 24199 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 On 26/03/2025 at 10:36, Alex said: Fucking dweebs Expand They're not fucking, that's the issue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 11810 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 The Atlantic have published the text exchange by the cunts https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/03/signal-group-chat-attack-plans-hegseth-goldberg/682176/?utm_source=bluesky&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=the-atlantic&utm_content=edit-promo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23962 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 On 26/03/2025 at 11:01, Rayvin said: I'm going to add that when I first joined here in my mid 20s, I was leaning toward all of this noise. I had my own insecurities from various childhood traumas that some of this anti-feminist/SJW stuff fed into and I found it quite validating at the time to see people push back against things that made me feel attacked. In the end it was actually Brexit that saved me from it tbh - that was the first time I really appreciated how many of these people were just straight up lying to me. Once the mask slipped I found I could suddenly see all of it for what it was, I went into therapy and properly dealt with my insecurity and the warped perspectives it could sometimes take me to. But I suspect it's that basic issue across a lot of people that makes this stuff so successful. It validates them when they feel attacked. Anyway, some of these guys ended up with huge platforms off the back of all of it, and several of them were amongst those exposed as having been on Russian payroll a year or so ago. I guess we don't know exactly when that started but even so, Russia either saw a huge opportunity in this or instigated it. Expand i remember having ding dongs with you and parky back in the day about jordan peterson and sargon of akkad. i can see how a lot of what they were pushing was seductive for angry young men but they always made me feel uneasy, particularly sargon aka carl benjamin, who struck me as a smug, sad creep. you're not wrong about the mask slipping. that carl benjamin bloke later ran as an MP for the ukip and has since outed himself a far-right racist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 51213 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 This lad has properly got it in for Rogan and the Roganverse. These are like Adam Curtis doing Rogan takedowns. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 6120 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 On 26/03/2025 at 13:22, Dr Gloom said: i remember having ding dongs with you and parky back in the day about jordan peterson and sargon of akkad. i can see how a lot of what they were pushing was seductive for angry young men but they always made me feel uneasy, particularly sargon aka carl benjamin, who struck me as a smug, sad creep. you're not wrong about the mask slipping. that carl benjamin bloke later ran as an MP for the ukip and has since outed himself a far-right racist Expand Yeah and he always kinda was, but the reality at the heart of it is that they are speaking to a genuine issue, just in a really unhelpful way. They would hold up the most extreme "woke" positions, suggest they were literally around the corner for lived reality, and then tear them apart. And on that stuff, they were right... but that stuff is like super fringe, really unrepresentative material. In the end my view was that both sides were extreme positions who needed each other to survive, and I think that remains the case even now. Trump is always harping on about the radical left, it's just that he's thrown that blanket over a lot more people than actually exist within it. I mean I didn't wake up from that and realise that the other side was right, I just woke up and realised that neither side were living in reality. Peterson for me at least was a difficult one because a lot of his psych stuff was genuinely helpful to me. I mean he's a wreck now anyway, all this has totaled him mentally. I don't actually think he was really one of the ringleaders or anything, just someone who tried to ride the wave and was consumed. The other seductive aspect to all this is the harnessing of a very real and very frustrated desire to just change the shit that we live in. I think that resonates for a lot of people - the right harnessed it, the left were beaten back. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 6120 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 On 26/03/2025 at 13:24, Gemmill said: This lad has properly got it in for Rogan and the Roganverse. These are like Adam Curtis doing Rogan takedowns. Expand I actually don't have a very informed view of Rogan, but people talk about him like he's the arbiter of common sense. He seems hugely significant in politics now in an almost Oprah like way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 51213 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 On 26/03/2025 at 13:35, Rayvin said: I actually don't have a very informed view of Rogan, but people talk about him like he's the arbiter of common sense. He seems hugely significant in politics now in an almost Oprah like way. Expand Nah, he's fully down the rabbit hole. The video I posted this morning is a pretty good summary of what's happened to him. He was always a thick stoner idiot, but while he was just making dick jokes and talking about UFC, that was fine. But Covid basically broke him, and now he exists in his own universe in Austin, owns a comedy club, and has a set of idiot comedians that rely on him for their future careers. You're right that he's massively influential though. Which is the ultimate indictment of where we are as a species. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 24199 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 I mean, the US just gets more batshit by the day. Not only were 6th January insurrectionists wrongly imprisoned and released, they were heroes who will now be compensated. As for the brave security defending the Capitol that day? They had better watch their backs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 51213 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 I've just watched a video of Tulsi Gabbard asked if she thinks it's responsible of her, as head of the intelligence community, to retweet people affiliated with Russian state media. Her answer: that was from my personal account. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 11810 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 On 26/03/2025 at 15:41, Gemmill said: I've just watched a video of Tulsi Gabbard asked if she thinks it's responsible of her, as head of the intelligence community, to retweet people affiliated with Russian state media. Her answer: that was from my personal account. Expand I’m only a Russian asset on my own time, seems legit 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 33649 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 On 26/03/2025 at 15:39, Renton said: I mean, the US just gets more batshit by the day. Not only were 6th January insurrectionists wrongly imprisoned and released, they were heroes who will now be compensated. As for the brave security defending the Capitol that day? They had better watch their backs. Expand Ashli Babbitt, one of the finest examples of fuck around and find out. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzler 12184 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 On 26/03/2025 at 15:39, Renton said: I mean, the US just gets more batshit by the day. Not only were 6th January insurrectionists wrongly imprisoned and released, they were heroes who will now be compensated. As for the brave security defending the Capitol that day? They had better watch their backs. Expand It's not really unthinkable like. He thought "if she doesn't fucking pack this in I'm going to shoot her" ...and then he shot her. It's very thinkable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 6120 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Once this fiasco is over with, how do the Democrats respond? Do they go back and imprison all these people again? Do they lock up the Trump administration. I personally think optics be damned, they should go for the entire fucking platform - but then I suppose it means the next time this comes up, Trump 2.0 will just do the same thing, like it normalises it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 24199 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 On 26/03/2025 at 16:30, Rayvin said: Once this fiasco is over with Expand Feel like that is uncharacteristically optimistic. One this fiasco is over and the surviving 3% of humanity arise from the ashes of global nuclear war, they will have other things on their mind. I actually read something even more depressing about humanity's fate. We have one shot at this. If we go back to the stone age, we're fucked, because unlike last time, we won't have any fossil fuels left to power the second industrial revolution we'll need. I mean we may have some blueprints to help us but we won't have the resources, at least not for another 60 million years, by which time the Sun will be getting rather hot. Explains the Fermi paradox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 33649 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 (edited) He’s putting a 25% tariff on all cars not made in the US. Bad news for the UK. Edited March 26 by ewerk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RobinRobin 12669 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 On 26/03/2025 at 22:00, Isegrim said: Expand She is a prime example of a Trump crony. Unfortunately for her, she isn't rich enough to be one of his inner circle cabinet members however much she tries. She couldn't be more classless if she tried (and I'm sure she will try). Sums her up completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 11810 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Ok, I'm done, when's the meteor hit ? "Freedom seeds" 😳🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 51213 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 That little fucking dweeb playing the hard lad. These people are just funny to me. It's like live action South Park. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzler 12184 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 On 27/03/2025 at 02:46, RobinRobin said: She is a prime example of a Trump crony. Unfortunately for her, she isn't rich enough to be one of his inner circle cabinet members however much she tries. She couldn't be more classless if she tried (and I'm sure she will try). Sums her up completely. Expand She's him and I can't unsee it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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