wykikitoon 22494 Posted Thursday at 20:40 Share Posted Thursday at 20:40 3 minutes ago, Alex said: Every cloud…. I heard a load of yanks today walking at lunch. You see a load of left hand drive cars in Harrogate too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 18795 Posted Thursday at 21:08 Share Posted Thursday at 21:08 Donald Trump first came to the attention of Soviet intelligence through their Czechoslovak subsidiary when in April 1977, aged 31, he married Ivana Zelnickova, a 28-year-old model and citizen of communist Czechoslovakia. The couple first experienced Moscow in 1987 on a visit arranged by the Soviet ambassador to the US, Yury Dubinin, and organised by the KGB. Dubinin told Trump that the leading Soviet state agency for international tourism, Goscomintourist, had expressed interest in “pursuing a joint venture to construct and manage a hotel in Moscow”. The Trumps stayed in the Lenin Suite at the National Hotel near Red Square, rooms which would have been bugged and well covered by hidden cameras. Although nothing appears to have come from this trip, in his book, The Art of the Deal, Trump describes how the visit fired him with the ambition of developing real estate in Russia, including a Trump Tower in Moscow. Trump later made three further solo trips to Moscow before becoming President: in 1996 to examine a development opportunity; in 2007 to promote “Trump Super Premium Vodka 24K” (the bottles were decorated with pure 24k gold) at the Millionaire Fair; and finally for the 2013 Miss Universe pageant. Trump is insistent that he didn’t spend a single night in Moscow during this pageant, even though in his letter to Putin he said he would be spending two nights there. Flight records show that his plane did arrive two days before the event, so perhaps Trump has a failure of memory about the two nights, or maybe he simply wants to deny what happened. According to the defector Oleg Kalugin, once the youngest general in the KGB and former head of KGB political operations in the US, “Trump had fun with a lot of girls during that trip and that it is certain that the KGB had compromising material from it”. This was later backed up by the Steele dossier used as evidence in the Muller investigations on Russian interference in the 2016 presidential elections. Much has been said about the Steele dossier, heavily criticised by an apprehensive Trump team. They continue to shower scorn on the claims about Trump without providing any evidence for their scepticism. A colleague in the British Embassy in Moscow in the early 90s, Chris Steele was an energetic 3rd Secretary and built up an impressive list of contacts in Russia during his three years. He was rated “a very professional operator” by a former UK ambassador. Between 2006 and 2009, he ran the MI6 Russia desk in London, before retiring to form his consultancy company Orbis. Because of Steele’s extensive knowledge and credibility on Russia, prior to the 2016 presidential election, Orbis was contracted by the Washington consultancy Fusion GPS, acting for a Republican donor, to create the “dossier” examining links between Donald Trump and Russia. In the dossier, Trump’s alleged sexual activity during his 2013 trip to Moscow was described in colourful detail, causing severe embarrassment to the White House, which in the traditional way described it as “fake news”. Countless businessmen and diplomats have been compromised over many years by Soviet or Russian videos taken by concealed cameras during “arranged” sex sessions in hotels. Students of Soviet/Russian intelligence will confirm that “Kompramat” has been the weapon of choice by Moscow since cameras were invented. So it would be extremely surprising if hidden cameras had not been used during Trump’s various stays in Moscow for “future use”. In fact, as Kalugin says, it is virtually certain that Donald Trump was compromised on each occasion. However, until the numerous tapes locked away in the Putin-controlled KGB stores in the bowels of the Lubyanka become available, we shall have no absolute proof. But such activity would be in line with thrice-married Trump’s proclivity for sexual misconduct. He has already admitted to grabbing women inappropriately and to paying off multiple women with whom he allegedly had affairs. Perhaps you agree with Donald Trump that he is too decent and honest a man to fall for sexual blackmail. OK, so let’s consider another area of opportunity for Putin to blackmail Trump—money. It’s widely believed that when faced with multiple bankruptcies Trump was “saved” on countless occasions by Russian money, the reason why he fights so hard to keep his financial returns out of the public eye. In 1992, he admitted to New York Magazine that two years earlier he was $5bn in debt, with a whopping $980m in personal guarantees. He managed to reduce this to $115m by selling off a string of yachts and planes and restructuring his debts, but by July 1991 his flagship Taj Mahal casino in Atlantic City New York was in financial trouble and filed for bankruptcy. Bondholders, believed to be Russian mobsters, rushed to the rescue and the casino was saved. But now the Taj Mahal became the place where “no questions were asked” about the vast amount of Russian money flowing through the casino, where Russian racketeers flocked to pay $100,000 a time for “special treatment”. In this way, the casino became a favourite venue for laundering the “black” cash pouring out of Russia, organised by the KGB in cohorts with Russian mobsters after the collapse of the Soviet Union. In 2015, the casino admitted to having “wilfully violated” anti-money laundering regulations for years and was fined $10m, a paltry sum but the highest penalty ever levied by the US Federal Government against a casino. In her best-selling new book ‘Putin’s People: How the KGB took back Russia and then took on the West’, the highly respected Financial Times journalist, Catherine Belton, describes in intimate detail how Russian “black cash” repeatedly came to Trump’s aid in the nick of time to prevent disaster. Belton worked in Russia for many years, from the time Putin came to power until 2013, during which she built up a formidable list of contacts. Detailing her sources, she describes how numerous Russian mobsters laundered black cash into Trump’s businesses over a number of years. As almost any deal, even as low as $20m, had to be authorised by President Putin, he will have a complete record of Trump’s indebtedness to him. Such information is power. 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Rayvin 5889 Posted Thursday at 21:24 Share Posted Thursday at 21:24 All these idiots voting for him and people like him, just being played by Russia and made into traitors against their own countries... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 23447 Posted Thursday at 21:36 Share Posted Thursday at 21:36 1 hour ago, Rayvin said: This is the thing though - I don't think that's true. For all I still harp on about centre, left and right, I don't think it comes down to those lines anymore. Hillary wasn't beaten because they called her a communist, she was beaten because they said she was owned by wall street and was an advocate for the status quo - and she absolutely was both of those things. She used to get paid a fortune to give speeches to wall street bankers in the run up to her candidacy. It's now about meaningful change versus a vested interest in keeping things as they are. We keep fighting this with the wrong tools, although it's understandable in a way that we do. The right knows that people want to take a sledgehammer to the system, so they co-opt that anger and try to aim it at the left and woke values - but the right wing were cheering on Mangione when he executed that CEO. The MAGA right are anti-corporation. They see the Democrats as an elite protecting big business, big pharma, and the 'deep state'. I see them as the same with the caveat that the deep state is a nonsense. I've read many analyses on Sanders vs Trump in 2016 and personally I'm convinced that Sanders wins that. His probable voters were better positioned in swing states than Clinton's were for one thing, but ultimately he polled better against Trump than she did consistently. I don't wanna rehash all this because we did it to death, but we have to stop shooting down left wing candidates just on the basis that if the centre can't win, the left can't win. Your thinking here locks us into a binary situation where anyone who wants to radically change the system because it's fucking shit has to vote right wing because there's no other game in town. And yet right and left agree on almost everything economically at the grassroots level - which is why the whole woke culture war bullshit is so crucial to the right. We need to have a singular message now, and that message has to be - Eat the Rich. Republican, Democrat, all of them. Aye, you might be right about Sanders 2016. Who the fuck knows with counterfactuals, I've given up trying to understand how we arrived here. I'd take the Gemmill option if I could but unless I literally ignore all MSM and become a hermit I don't think it's possible. Some positives mind. Apparently rather than emboldening the far right in Europe is actually damaging them. He has repulsed 90% of the continent. Watching Farage squirm is amusing, given what he's previously said about Ukraine he's fucked himself with his Trump allegiance. And Tesla is bombing in Europe. If you're stupid enough to buy one now it'll probably end up vandalised. None of this makes up for the reality we are heading for a dark place of course. But in the meantime, fuck America. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2283 Posted Thursday at 23:03 Share Posted Thursday at 23:03 I suppose that if Trump is limited to two terms, he might feel less worried about kompromat being released. Nothing seems to knock him off his stride, basically it's impossible to shame Trump and his entourage, they just invent their own reality. However Putin does offer the possibility of funnelling huge amounts of cash into Trump and his family's pockets and I think that's what's motivating him now. Trump has no problem with abusing his position for a buck and would sell anyone and anything down the river. And then deny it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 12332 Posted yesterday at 02:43 Share Posted yesterday at 02:43 Trump 'very frustrated' and Zelensky must strike minerals deal, says adviser At least they are now being "honest". Trump is using extortion against Ukraine for their rare earth minerals or, presumably, he will allow Russia in and seek to do the same with Putin. The problem is that Putin would never stick to any "deal" which he agrees with mango man. Meanwhile 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 18795 Posted yesterday at 07:43 Share Posted yesterday at 07:43 (edited) Aye the thought of Russia waging a war for 3 years then just giving Trump access to Ukraine’s mineral wealth is a sick joke Edited yesterday at 08:19 by PaddockLad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5889 Posted yesterday at 08:11 Share Posted yesterday at 08:11 If it did happen, it'd be interesting if the following US administration stuck to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 23447 Posted yesterday at 08:15 Share Posted yesterday at 08:15 1 minute ago, Rayvin said: If it did happen, it'd be interesting if the following US administration stuck to it. In normal politics, of course the Democrats would not stick with it. But of course we are a long way from.l normal. I genuinely do not think there will be another free and fair election. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 7411 Posted yesterday at 08:26 Share Posted yesterday at 08:26 I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. The only man to save the USA is…. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 12332 Posted yesterday at 09:00 Share Posted yesterday at 09:00 33 minutes ago, Holden McGroin said: I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. The only man to save the USA is…. Are we stuck between ... no fuck it, not going there. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 7411 Posted yesterday at 09:02 Share Posted yesterday at 09:02 1 minute ago, RobinRobin said: Are we stuck between ... no fuck it, not going there. Not even a giphy ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 16303 Posted yesterday at 09:23 Share Posted yesterday at 09:23 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 18795 Posted yesterday at 09:38 Share Posted yesterday at 09:38 1 hour ago, Holden McGroin said: I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. The only man to save the USA is…. The now semi-permanent Mrs PL seriously suggested this a few years back. She (tbf to her, fairly astutely) pointed out that there would’ve been no Trump POTUS mk 1 if he hadn’t given the illusion that he was a legitimate and competent businessman on The Apprentice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 10278 Posted yesterday at 10:47 Share Posted yesterday at 10:47 Vance complaining about German criminal law that is centuries old where it is a criminal offence to insult others. It probably has nothing to do with his bosses enjoying abusing people and running a certain platform… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 36144 Posted yesterday at 10:57 Share Posted yesterday at 10:57 Trump's speaking of going into fort Knox which he hears is brilliant, gotta lot of gold in there to make sure it's all there, he's checking up. What are the odds there's some missing or soon to be missing? Invaders always end up at the treasury throughout history. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 36144 Posted yesterday at 10:58 Share Posted yesterday at 10:58 Him, musk and their henchman may as well be wearing masks with a sack labelled 'loot' tbh. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 11155 Posted yesterday at 11:13 Share Posted yesterday at 11:13 He who controls the treasury controls everything. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 23447 Posted yesterday at 11:47 Share Posted yesterday at 11:47 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Isegrim said: Vance complaining about German criminal law that is centuries old where it is a criminal offence to insult others. It probably has nothing to do with his bosses enjoying abusing people and running a certain platform… I bet he must have loads to say about the Russian legal system and freedom of speech there? Surely? Edited yesterday at 11:47 by Renton 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5889 Posted yesterday at 12:00 Share Posted yesterday at 12:00 1 hour ago, Isegrim said: Vance complaining about German criminal law that is centuries old where it is a criminal offence to insult others. It probably has nothing to do with his bosses enjoying abusing people and running a certain platform… Somehow I think I've started to hate Vance more than either of the other two. The audacity of this gnomish scrote to come over here and think anyone gives the slightest fuck what he thinks about anything. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5889 Posted yesterday at 12:37 Share Posted yesterday at 12:37 One of his better ones. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 23447 Posted yesterday at 13:02 Share Posted yesterday at 13:02 57 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Somehow I think I've started to hate Vance more than either of the other two. The audacity of this gnomish scrote to come over here and think anyone gives the slightest fuck what he thinks about anything. He's also one of the few with a genuine theological slant on this. The absolutely worst Catholic scum there is (I can say this given my own background). His ilk were the kind behind the likes of the Spanish inquisition. The hypocrisy of Christians like him is just off the scale, about as far away from the philosophy of Jesus as you can imagine. There's been so much shit flying from the Trump camp this week a lot of things may have gone unnoticed, but Vance has attacked the rights of women in our country not to be abused as well, so I'll leave this here. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/feb/15/jd-vance-decried-as-extremist-over-attack-on-uk-abortion-clinic-safe-zones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 49252 Posted yesterday at 13:06 Share Posted yesterday at 13:06 https://iandunt.substack.com/p/the-lies-are-the-point?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=1833442&post_id=157610380&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=172gw&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5889 Posted yesterday at 13:21 Share Posted yesterday at 13:21 13 minutes ago, Gemmill said: https://iandunt.substack.com/p/the-lies-are-the-point?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=1833442&post_id=157610380&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=172gw&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email Agree with it, but ultimately the destruction of truth has been the main weapon Russia has used since 2014. Now the waters of our discourse are so muddy that no one can think straight - there's simply so much bullshit to fight against now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 23447 Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago 22 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Agree with it, but ultimately the destruction of truth has been the main weapon Russia has used since 2014. Now the waters of our discourse are so muddy that no one can think straight - there's simply so much bullshit to fight against now. Aye, by design. Bannon's flooding the zone. The collective anxiety these cunts are deliberately causing around the globe is simply mind boggling. Any minority group in the States right now must be terrified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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