Renton 21592 Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 1 minute ago, Rayvin said: The thing I would put to you I guess is this - if you're right, it feels like there's nothing we can do about it. If I'm right, there is something we can do about it. So we may as well assume I'm right because it's the only assumption that we can do anything about 😉 By "we" I guess you mean broadly left leaning progressives rather than me and you. I think a lot depends on how it pans out for Trump and how much of the safety rail he can tear down in the first 4 years. I think he can do one hell of a lot of damage and his economic policies (if followed through) will not endear him to the MAGAs, like it didn't in 2020. Question is whether democracy is still functioning in 2028, or by then it has changed to something more Putinesque. I mean, obviously, as others have said, no point in worrying about it for now at least. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5217 Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 1 minute ago, The Fish said: I guess, I just want to witness what lies beneath the fugitive on air force one. I think we're kinda through the looking glass now tbh, this is Trump's world to mould as he sees fit. We shall see if he's competent enough to use that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5217 Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 2 minutes ago, Renton said: By "we" I guess you mean broadly left leaning progressives rather than me and you. I think a lot depends on how it pans out for Trump and how much of the safety rail he can tear down in the first 4 years. I think he can do one hell of a lot of damage and his economic policies (if followed through) will not endear him to the MAGAs, like it didn't in 2020. Question is whether democracy is still functioning in 2028, or by then it has changed to something more Putinesque. I mean, obviously, as others have said, no point in worrying about it for now at least. Fair. On the subject of Putin, I feel like we should collectively acknowledge that we are literally at war with Russia now. This constant fucking on with our countries and democracies is a war. We should see it for what it is. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21592 Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 6 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Fair. On the subject of Putin, I feel like we should collectively acknowledge that we are literally at war with Russia now. This constant fucking on with our countries and democracies is a war. We should see it for what it is. I mean, I've done the Trump list, but one of the things I truly, truly cannot get my head around is the Republican party , the Hawkish party of Reagan and Bush, kowtowing to Russia in this way. It's mind boggling. And I agree, we should regard it as a war. The only good thing to come out ofthe Ukraine travesty is its shown the Russian army are useless. Europe can beat Russia without America's help. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10855 Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 1 minute ago, Rayvin said: I think we're kinda through the looking glass now tbh, this is Trump's world to mould as he sees fit. We shall see if he's competent enough to use that. I know the left will be Frantic for a hundred and one nights, but it's not like we've tumbled into the temple of doom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35064 Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 27 minutes ago, Rayvin said: The thing I would put to you I guess is this - if you're right, it feels like there's nothing we can do about it. If I'm right, there is something we can do about it. So we may as well assume I'm right because it's the only assumption that we can do anything about 😉 I can’t do anything about your assumptions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5217 Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 7 minutes ago, The Fish said: I know the left will be Frantic for a hundred and one nights, but it's not like we've tumbled into the temple of doom. Harrison Ford movies! I knew you were talking weirdly but honestly I just assumed you'd had a stroke or something... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10855 Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 Just now, Rayvin said: Harrison Ford movies! I knew you were talking weirdly but honestly I just assumed you'd had a stroke or something... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10855 Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 10 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Harrison Ford movies! I knew you were talking weirdly but honestly I just assumed you'd had a stroke or something... I did manage 26. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21592 Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 23 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Harrison Ford movies! I knew you were talking weirdly but honestly I just assumed you'd had a stroke or something... He's a clear and present danger to himself, that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10855 Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Renton said: He's a clear and present danger to himself, that one. Literally the first one I did. On 07/11/2024 at 14:44, The Fish said: I look forward to their demise, but unless something happens very soon I don't think they face any clear and present danger. I was shocked it wasn't noticed with this one. 1 hour ago, The Fish said: I guess, I just want to witness what lies beneath the fugitive on air force one. Edited November 8 by The Fish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21592 Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 12 minutes ago, The Fish said: Literally the first one I did. I was shocked it wasn't noticed with this one. I'll be honest, I don't really read your posts? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9762 Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 Can we merge this one without the funny pictures thread? There is no way I will ever look for anything serious here again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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spongebob toonpants 3994 Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 22 minutes ago, wykikitoon said: Sadly they have 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17244 Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17244 Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 Here @Gemmill if it keeps going like this it might turn out you were right all along Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44811 Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 Musk can't even keep Twitter Spaces online for an hour for his big special events with Trump and DeSantis. The idea he's hacked the US election is nonsense. The cunts are the majority there. That's all that's happened. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob toonpants 3994 Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 Trump didn't even get more votes than the last election, people just didn't bother to turn out for the Democrats. Its pretty still the same number of deplorables, its just they vote every time. It's almost as if cosying up to the Cheneys and other right wing ghouls isn't going to energise lefties 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21592 Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 40 minutes ago, spongebob toonpants said: Trump didn't even get more votes than the last election, people just didn't bother to turn out for the Democrats. Its pretty still the same number of deplorables, its just they vote every time. It's almost as if cosying up to the Cheneys and other right wing ghouls isn't going to energise lefties Cosying up to the Cheneys? Really? Other right wing ghouls? Liz Cheney's endorsement was an appeal to stop Trump whom she rightly sees as a threat to democracy. It was supposed to swing traditional republicans. It clearly didn't work but if this is the reason the "lefties" didn't vote for the sane candidate they can get fucked. The more I think about it, Harris had no chance in this election whatever she did. A large proportion of Gen Z turned out for Trump. They like this alpha male strong man bullshit.. Some overlook his debasing morality and criminality, others actively like it. Do you honestly think a Bernie Sanders style swing to the left will work in the US, when Harris was thought to be a communist by half the electorate? I don't know what the solution is, in reality it will probably be Trump's own failures rather than anything the deomocrats can do at this stage. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17244 Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 As traitors go Garland is up there right beside Trump . If the DoJ (& the FBI) wasn’t riven with placemen cunts such as him then Trump wouldn’t be near a ballot slip, he’d be behind bards. Trump has bought them all. When he assumes power this process will accelerate at an eye watering rate. Congress & senate will need to pass a lot of it, have they got the balls to stand up to him? Maybe, but the SCOTUS don’t answer to anyone… 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21592 Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 9 minutes ago, PaddockLad said: As traitors go Garland is up there right beside Trump . If the DoJ (& the FBI) wasn’t riven with placemen cunts such as him then Trump wouldn’t be near a ballot slip, he’d be behind bards. Trump has bought them all. When he assumes power this process will accelerate at an eye watering rate. Congress & senate will need to pass a lot of it, have they got the balls to stand up to him? Maybe, but the SCOTUS don’t answer to anyone… Mitch McConnell, cunt extraordinaire. Wouldn't impeach Trump in office and then when he was booted out said he couldn't be impeached as he was no longer president. This type of circular reasoning has ruined the planet (catrastophist?, it porbably literally has with climate change). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17244 Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 5 minutes ago, Renton said: Mitch McConnell, cunt extraordinaire. Wouldn't impeach Trump in office and then when he was booted out said he couldn't be impeached as he was no longer president. This type of circular reasoning has ruined the planet (catrastophist?, it porbably literally has with climate change). The list is long and they’ll all escape punishment. Trump was born on the 14 June 1946, less than a year after WW2 ended. In a decade he has obliterated what was left of what we in this country loosely termed “post war certainties” … virtually the only thing left (jobs for life, good healthcare and decent pensions were jettisoned decades ago) was democracy and accountability. That’s finally gone in the US and that will very likely disappear in this country too 😞 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44811 Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 84 year old Nancy Pelosi has turned on 81 year old Joe Biden, blaming him for the election loss. There should be an upper age limit for politicians. Fucking dickheads. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42387 Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 3 hours ago, Gemmill said: 84 year old Nancy Pelosi has turned on 81 year old Joe Biden, blaming him for the election loss. There should be an upper age limit for politicians. Fucking dickheads. 25-60. No exceptions. Gives time to get youthful deftness out of the system, and gets rid of them before they turn mental/conservative. I’d consider a mandatory break of a few years too, if they’re a career politician, so that they get experience of actual work 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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