Donald Trump

[Renton 21263]

47 minutes ago, Rayvin said:

One other thought on all this - the EU needs to federalise. We cannot waste any more time on the USA, the only reason any of us even care about this is because of how it fucks up the wider Western civilisation. I mean that was our civilisation to start with anyway, and the US can't be trusted to lead it anymore. Europe urgently needs to grow a pair. And we need to get the fuck back into it. I firmly believe a federal EU would be approximately as strong as the US anyway.

 

A federal Europe would be my dream too. Most people don't want that though. We didn't even want ot be in the EU as it is, a lot of Brits would genuinely prefer to be the 51st State. Never got the love affair personally. 

[spongebob toonpants 3938]

On 22/09/2020 at 11:38, spongebob toonpants said:

 

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If the Dems don't sweep this election, give Puerto Rico and Washington  statehood and pack the Supreme Court, then USA election going forward will be about as fair as Russia's

 

This is what I said the Democrats should do if they won a trifecta in the last election, they won, they didn't and look where they are now

 

Starmer is now in the same position of strength, he can do whatever he wants. We won't be in this position again. Now is the time to sort Brexit, windfall tax the fuck put of billionaires and actually do something. Its literally now or never

[Toonpack 9204]

6 minutes ago, spongebob toonpants said:

On 22/09/2020 at 11:38, spongebob toonpants said:

 

Starmer is now in the same position of strength, he can do whatever he wants. We won't be in this position again. Now is the time to sort Brexit, windfall tax the fuck put of billionaires and actually do something. Its literally now or never

But, but, but, the rules, fair play and all that, slow and steady it’s the British way. Meanwhile the cuntiest cunts are sprinting 🙄

[Renton 21263]

20 minutes ago, spongebob toonpants said:

On 22/09/2020 at 11:38, spongebob toonpants said:

 

 

 

This is what I said the Democrats should do if they won a trifecta in the last election, they won, they didn't and look where they are now

 

Starmer is now in the same position of strength, he can do whatever he wants. We won't be in this position again. Now is the time to sort Brexit, windfall tax the fuck put of billionaires and actually do something. Its literally now or never

 

Fair play for that. Personally I'm massively uncomfortable with using small majorities to fix democracy in your favour, but I see the logic in sinking to your opponents level. Shows the system is broken, even though its a written constitution. 

Talking of which, not only does Trump have the trifecta, the supreme court and the popular vote mandate, he now has no democrat opponent and crucially nobody in his own party to stop him doing literally anything he wants. He has no excuses, nobody to blame for stopping him like last time. The only slight bit of hope that brings is he owns his own performance. So aye, he needs to deport 12 million people ASAP and give Putin Ukraine tomorrow. 

 

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[aimaad22 4105]

Well good to see you've all taken this really well  

 

Will be sure to give a heads up when the shit hits the fan   

[Isegrim 9732]

Lest not forget.

 

It is all Gemmill‘s fault.

[Toonpack 9204]

[Dazzler 9387]

53 minutes ago, Toonpack said:

[Toonpack 9204]

@Renton

 

It begins, this is going to be mental 😂😂😂

[Kid Dynamite 6986]

I'm not having this "most incredible and biggest win ever" shite btw.
 

139million votes cast and less then 5million splitting them. 

[spongebob toonpants 3938]

9 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said:

I'm not having this "most incredible and biggest win ever" shite btw.
 

139million votes cast and less then 5million splitting them. 

Last time the Republicans won the popular vote was 2004. Before that it was 1988. Its a pretty big deal

[NJS 4370]

The dems lost 14m votes from 2020. They gained no "moderate" republicans. It's a shitshow. They learned nothing from 2016 and imo only won last time because of Covid. I find the fact that what lead Harris did have was reduced after the political geniuses of Jonathan Ainsworth and other Labour bigwigs went to advise them absolutely hilarious. 

[ewerk 30236]

36 minutes ago, Toonpack said:

@Renton

 

It begins, this is going to be mental 😂😂😂

He needs Senate approval. Even with Trump’s influence I still don’t see it as straightforward.

[Renton 21263]

34 minutes ago, ewerk said:

He needs Senate approval. Even with Trump’s influence I still don’t see it as straightforward.

 

The Senate the Republicans have control of? There is literally nothing to stop Trump doing what he wants now. There's not even anybody to temper his madness. 

[Renton 21263]

39 minutes ago, NJS said:

The dems lost 14m votes from 2020. They gained no "moderate" republicans. It's a shitshow. They learned nothing from 2016 and imo only won last time because of Covid. I find the fact that what lead Harris did have was reduced after the political geniuses of Jonathan Ainsworth and other Labour bigwigs went to advise them absolutely hilarious. 

 

Have to get a dig in on Labour I see. 

Literally none of you, SB, or Rayvin have said what the Democrats could do differently other than some vague notion of turning the US into a socialist republic which is obviously impossible and really just batshit. 

The voting population of the US are living in a post truth post morality world now. The electorate is debased. I honestly can't see any solution to that now, other than they will have to go down the route of fascism until they wake up. But then, the country is the only hegemonic superpower left, it's not like any other country can stop them either.