Renton 21214 Posted Sunday at 10:58 Share Posted Sunday at 10:58 4 minutes ago, Gemmill said: Another poll came out the same day giving Trump a 9 point lead in Iowa, so who knows, but he was 18 points ahead in June. When you watch his latest efforts at rallies, I think he looks defeated. Basically saying "why am I hear talking to you animals when I could be at home in Florida?" I think he's done. I think his great victory of putting women's lives at risk through banning abortions has completely fucked him, and it's a cause he doesn't even believe in. I think you're right. But nervous we are wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5164 Posted Sunday at 15:21 Share Posted Sunday at 15:21 Something I've been struggling with a bit on my end in all this is that I seem to be applying a different standard to the US race compared to the UK elections. Harris is essentially a New Labour style candidate, a moderate who won't make any significant changes or address the things that I would argue are important. And yet in her case, I absolutely would vote for her without caring about any of her policies, simply because she's not Trump. I suppose it means I see Trump as a bigger threat to 'everything' than the Tories ever could be, but it's still somewhat hypocritical of me. I'll need to submit myself for some self flagellation, not sure I can have this one both ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 9163 Posted Sunday at 15:42 Share Posted Sunday at 15:42 5 hours ago, PaddockLad said: 👀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21214 Posted Sunday at 15:52 Share Posted Sunday at 15:52 28 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Something I've been struggling with a bit on my end in all this is that I seem to be applying a different standard to the US race compared to the UK elections. Harris is essentially a New Labour style candidate, a moderate who won't make any significant changes or address the things that I would argue are important. And yet in her case, I absolutely would vote for her without caring about any of her policies, simply because she's not Trump. I suppose it means I see Trump as a bigger threat to 'everything' than the Tories ever could be, but it's still somewhat hypocritical of me. I'll need to submit myself for some self flagellation, not sure I can have this one both ways. If it was Starmer vs. Farage, I assume you'd vote for Starmer? Trump is even more racist than Farage, his policies are terrifying, and be more repulsive than Jabba the Hutt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21214 Posted Sunday at 16:52 Share Posted Sunday at 16:52 Yes, he's the president for me, not weird at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rayvin 5164 Posted Sunday at 17:49 Share Posted Sunday at 17:49 1 hour ago, Renton said: If it was Starmer vs. Farage, I assume you'd vote for Starmer? Trump is even more racist than Farage, his policies are terrifying, and be more repulsive than Jabba the Hutt. I mean if it was a straight run off between Starmer and anyone to the right of him I guess I would. Not sure what it is about our system that makes me want to resist that though, suppose part of me falls for the illusion that it isn't a binary choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21214 Posted Sunday at 18:23 Share Posted Sunday at 18:23 32 minutes ago, Rayvin said: I mean if it was a straight run off between Starmer and anyone to the right of him I guess I would. Not sure what it is about our system that makes me want to resist that though, suppose part of me falls for the illusion that it isn't a binary choice. Yeah, it pretty much always is. Mine tends to be "the best placed candidate to beat the Tories", which is Labour in my case. I would vote Lib Dem if they were clearly better placed mind. Not Reform though, obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5164 Posted Sunday at 18:36 Share Posted Sunday at 18:36 11 minutes ago, Renton said: Yeah, it pretty much always is. Mine tends to be "the best placed candidate to beat the Tories", which is Labour in my case. I would vote Lib Dem if they were clearly better placed mind. Not Reform though, obviously. I mean part of it is definitely a desire to stand up for my principles I guess, but perhaps it's easier with the US as my only real concerns are that they don't abandon Ukraine, and they don't collapse internationalism. It doesn't really bother me what they're doing domestically, though perhaps it should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21214 Posted Sunday at 18:50 Share Posted Sunday at 18:50 9 minutes ago, Rayvin said: I mean part of it is definitely a desire to stand up for my principles I guess, but perhaps it's easier with the US as my only real concerns are that they don't abandon Ukraine, and they don't collapse internationalism. It doesn't really bother me what they're doing domestically, though perhaps it should. Well domestically Trump will turn the US into fascist dictatorship, with concentration camps for immigrants and women will be treated like they're in the hand maid's tale. Even before you factor in isolationist trade tariffs, difficult to imagine how that won't impact us. However, Theo Paphitis of all people made the reasonable point on LK this morning that a Trump presidency would force the UK back into the European fold, so you might actually like that! Unanticipated outcomes and all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5164 Posted Sunday at 18:54 Share Posted Sunday at 18:54 3 minutes ago, Renton said: Well domestically Trump will turn the US into fascist dictatorship, with concentration camps for immigrants and women will be treated like they're in the hand maid's tale. Even before you factor in isolationist trade tariffs, difficult to imagine how that won't impact us. However, Theo Paphitis of all people made the reasonable point on LK this morning that a Trump presidency would force the UK back into the European fold, so you might actually like that! Unanticipated outcomes and all that. Don't say that ffs... god that's a Sophie's Choice right there. Trump or EU.. Actually if it was that simple, it'd flip me pro-Trump. Thank god it isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21214 Posted Sunday at 19:34 Share Posted Sunday at 19:34 2 hours ago, Renton said: Yes, he's the president for me, not weird at all. I mean I know nothing Trump does can shock you, but howay lads, he's deep throating a microphone here. Imagine if Biden or Harris had done this, they would have had to step down with immediate effect. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21214 Posted Sunday at 19:38 Share Posted Sunday at 19:38 (edited) MAGA thick cunts. The funniest thing is, Trump has got his idiot followers dressing up in adult diapers and now bin bags. Edited Sunday at 19:39 by Renton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42000 Posted Sunday at 19:52 Share Posted Sunday at 19:52 17 minutes ago, Renton said: I mean I know nothing Trump does can shock you, but howay lads, he's deep throating a microphone here. Imagine if Biden or Harris had done this, they would have had to step down with immediate effect. I wouldn’t say no to Kamala getting nasty with a mic tbf. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhh_yeah 2939 Posted Sunday at 23:40 Share Posted Sunday at 23:40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 11107 Posted yesterday at 02:44 Share Posted yesterday at 02:44 6 hours ago, Monkeys Fist said: I wouldn’t say no to Kamala getting nasty with a mic tbf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamTaylor5 871 Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago 10 hours ago, Renton said: MAGA thick cunts. The funniest thing is, Trump has got his idiot followers dressing up in adult diapers and now bin bags. I don't think that is too bad to be honest. I get their point- I would rather be viewed as garbage than a tory. I do get that their political views are wildly different to mine but it does appear to be a tongue and cheek outfit. Part of me wants to know how they printing on the bin bags, the other 97% of me knows that it would be knowledge that would never be useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob toonpants 3923 Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21214 Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago Kamala talking to Kamala in a mirror is still less narcissistic than Trump at any time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob toonpants 3923 Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago I actually think she comes over as a much more normal and relatable person than not just Trump (obviously) but Starmer Sunak Badenoch, in fact pretty much any politician I can think of 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21214 Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21214 Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago Btw, can I just point out the OP nailed the thread in the first post, so we've wasted 86 pages and 9 years for nothing. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44242 Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.bsky.social/post/3la2pw6ghpi2f Trump ending his campaign on a real high here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21214 Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Gemmill said: https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.bsky.social/post/3la2pw6ghpi2f Trump ending his campaign on a real high here. He's never heard of the term delinquent? He needs a sit down vocabulary lesson from @The Fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10681 Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Renton said: He's never heard of the term delinquent? He needs a sit down vocabulary lesson from @The Fish. Oh, there'd be no sitting until he got it right. Doddering old cunt will stand until he masters the English language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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