Renton 20413 Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 1 hour ago, Gemmill said: He needs the votes of more than the MAGA-loons to win the election though. His base is not the problem, it's the independents and the swing voters, and the moderate Republicans he needs to worry about, and a lot of them look like they prefer Harris and Walz to Trump and Vance. That and the "double haters" who didn't like Biden or Trump, and now have someone else they can vote for. These people seem to like Harris/Walz, so you don't win them back by calling Harris and Walz names or claiming her crowd sizes are fake. You'd have to build an argument about their policies and convince people that you're the better candidate, but Trump can't do that. It's looking increasingly like a lot of people are just bored with Trump's antics now. It even looks a bit like he's bored of it. This. Someone on OGWN made the point that most Americans just didn't want a repeat of the last elections, with both candidates even older now. The democrats have singularly broken free of these shackles. All they have to do now is look and act normal, which is easy enough, because they are fundamentally normal people. Walz also coined it calling Trump and Vance "Weird". It resonates because its obviously true. The more they get called weird, the weirder they will become. Honestly, I know there's a long way to go, but I don't see a way back fro Trump at this stage. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4252 Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 That Walz looks like the most genuinely decent bloke in politics for quite a while - I hope it's not a con. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzler 8436 Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 32 minutes ago, NJS said: That Walz looks like the most genuinely decent bloke in politics for quite a while - I hope it's not a con. From what I’ve read of him he’s a proper normal, decent person. He was late into politics so probably hasn’t been completely corrupted by it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 20413 Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 Just listened to the Trump Musk interview there. Has Trump had a stroke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10422 Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 14 minutes ago, Renton said: Just listened to the Trump Musk interview there. Has Trump had a stroke? Depends if he saw his daughter beforehand or not. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzler 8436 Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 47 minutes ago, Renton said: Just listened to the Trump Musk interview there. Has Trump had a stroke? Snorted what he thought was toot and ended up in a k hole. Uma Thurman in Pulp Fiction only rapier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 42580 Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 1 hour ago, Renton said: Just listened to the Trump Musk interview there. Has Trump had a stroke? One of the American papers has likened his performance to that of a "drunk Daffy Duck" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 8680 Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 Several think he has dementia, hope so, but only if he gets found guilty/imprisoned for his crimes while he still knows what day it is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonatine 11121 Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 42580 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 Still one of the weirder facts about this very weird man. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 42580 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 Harris now has a 3 point lead in the fivethirtyeight poll average tracker. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 8680 Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 It would appear US “Ivy league” schools turn out the same level of great intellect as Eton etc. Vance has said “before the 18th century immigration” there was no ethnic conflict in the US” erm………….. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 42580 Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 Just now, Toonpack said: It would appear US “Ivy league” schools turn out the same level of great intellect as Eton etc. Vance has said “before the 18th century immigration” there was no ethnic conflict in the US” erm………….. Good idea slagging off the Irish and Italians as well for all the crime that came over with them. Not like there's many of them in the electorate. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10422 Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 1 hour ago, Gemmill said: Good idea slagging off the Irish and Italians as well for all the crime that came over with them. Not like there's many of them in the electorate. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6575 Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 1 hour ago, Toonpack said: It would appear US “Ivy league” schools turn out the same level of great intellect as Eton etc. Vance has said “before the 18th century immigration” there was no ethnic conflict in the US” erm………….. Fuck me. Someone get that cunt a book on the American Indian Wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 41317 Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 1 hour ago, The Fish said: He fucking hates Trump with a passion, too 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 10672 Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 🙂 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 42580 Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 I was pretty convinced that the reason he's spent the last few weeks sat around the house is cos the shooting business has affected him. Soft shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9577 Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 20413 Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 1 hour ago, Gemmill said: I was pretty convinced that the reason he's spent the last few weeks sat around the house is cos the shooting business has affected him. Soft shite. Tbf what he's been through would trigger PTSD in nearly all of us. It will definitely affect him going forward and not in a good way. Now he's been put back in his box literally you're right it betrays his anxiety and vulnerability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 29474 Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 57 minutes ago, Isegrim said: A bit of orange on orange there from Tindall. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9577 Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 (edited) Have a look at the replies. Edited August 19 by Isegrim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gemmill 42580 Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 Party conventions are terrible. American party conventions are the fucking WORST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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