Dr Gloom 22143 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Turkish football fans are generally just dickheads. Remember all that welcome to hell nonsense galatasaray fans used to come out with a few years back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46022 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 But if the above is to be believed, it at least wasn't a show of support for the terrorists, which is how it's being framed in the press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 3106 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Yeah. If it's a cultural misunderstanding then that needs to be cleared up. I think it would be good if the article were retracted. Give the journalist the benefit of the doubt that he's simply an idiot, and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21983 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Struggling to believe any group of people respect a minutes silence by booing. I'd like to know the truth of the matter but wouldn't assume the content of a comment were correct. There undoubtedly will be sympathisers in the Turkish crowd. Or are we suggesting celebrations after 9/11 were fabricated as well? Or mass riots after a cartoon was published? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46022 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Here we go again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22143 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Here we go again. It's it's a more a case here of Turkish fans being the Millwall of European supporters. Knobheads, basically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46022 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Ok they're knobheads. But if this wasn't a show of support for terrorism, then it shouldn't be reported as on. Can we at least agree on that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10963 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Ok they're knobheads. But if this wasn't a show of support for terrorism, then it shouldn't be reported as on. Can we at least agree on that? Depends, what colour was that dress? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21983 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Ok they're knobheads. But if this wasn't a show of support for terrorism, then it shouldn't be reported as on. Can we at least agree on that? Agreed, but its hardly in the mainstream media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15716 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22143 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Ok they're knobheads. But if this wasn't a show of support for terrorism, then it shouldn't be reported as on. Can we at least agree on that? Tactless, moron football supporters would be more fitting here, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22143 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 The attacks expose a massive failure by French intelligence agencies, given how well known a lot of the attackers were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 (edited) The story so far as I can see is that Belgium is highly disorganized with various intelligence assets and police forces who aren't communicating. It has become the operational center over the last decade because it has a lax attitude to guns and smuggling and so on and worst of all the new Mosques there are Wahhabi built with money from Saudi. The clerics are also imported and among the more radical because they have no ties to Belgium. From Belgium they have been traveling back and forth to Syria and hooking up with various other cells in Europe. The intelligence services in Belgium are tiny which came as a shock to me as it is the hub of at least 10 major European institutions inc Nato and various EU bodies. http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-belgian-connection Molenbeek http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/nov/17/molenbeek-jihadi-isis-belgian-paris-attacks-belgium Edited November 18, 2015 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 (edited) The attacks expose a massive failure by French intelligence agencies, given how well known a lot of the attackers were. Looked into it a bit last night and Belgium intelligence is also Keystone cops stuff. I'll post summink else later. Edited November 18, 2015 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 (edited) They can't get him out the country due to UN/EU human rights law. Just another example of the complex mural and entanglements we are dealing with. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/norway/11384850/Norway-court-rules-government-can-exile-hate-preacher-to-remote-village.html Important vid as this geezer has been around and is old skool. Set up stuff in Iraq in the early days and the interview is frank and direct. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cTs7ViG5Q4 Edited November 18, 2015 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 (edited) Rare and honest insight into American defence intelligence and goals. Quite a revelation 9min in.... Edited November 18, 2015 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22143 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 They can't get him out the country due to UN/EU human rights law. Just another example of the complex mural and entanglements we are dealing with. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/norway/11384850/Norway-court-rules-government-can-exile-hate-preacher-to-remote-village.html Important vid as this geezer has been around and is old skool. Set up stuff in Iraq in the early days and the interview is frank and direct. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cTs7ViG5Q4 what a weapons grade cunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35571 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Should send Frank Tagliano round to have a word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22143 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Rare and honest insight into American defence intelligence and goals. Quite a revelation 9min in.... he's blaming obama for backing islamist rebels against assad in the early days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46022 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3321962/If-don-t-like-country-f-did-come-Impassioned-speech-Muslim-decries-ISIS-terrorists-trying-impose-Sharia-law-West.html For Renton and Gloom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22143 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3321962/If-don-t-like-country-f-did-come-Impassioned-speech-Muslim-decries-ISIS-terrorists-trying-impose-Sharia-law-West.html For Renton and Gloom. brilliant! and picked up by the daily mail, no less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10963 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Law or medical books behind him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4222 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Eat your heart out Gloomy http://i100.independent.co.uk/article/this-heartfelt-message-to-paris-from-pakistani-comedians-has-gone-crazy-viral--ZJCnTHNPKl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22143 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 (edited) Eat your heart out Gloomy http://i100.independent.co.uk/article/this-heartfelt-message-to-paris-from-pakistani-comedians-has-gone-crazy-viral--ZJCnTHNPKl another good video, and i absolutely agree with everything they say, apart from the praying stuff, but you already knew that. Edited November 18, 2015 by Dr Gloom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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