Renton 24435 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 On 28/10/2015 at 01:00, toonotl said: Just found out about the Greer thing at Cardiff Uni. Obviously, Greer should not be censored just because her ideas may cause offence. However, I do kind of enjoy it that the militant feminists are starting to cannibalise their own. This is the manifestation of the modern notion that every 'idea' is an avenue toward causing offence. It's the ridiculousness of reducto ad absurdum practised entirely without irony. Professional offence takers are attempting to kill freedom of expression. They misrepresent arguments, aggressively avoid dialogue, and attempt to censor by way of accusations of bigotry. The discussion in the Saudi thread is an example of this crap. There is nothing wrong with the core of feminist ideas. It's about equality. Every society should strive for equality. The notion of feminism, however, has been hijacked by fuckwits. Every nobly intentioned minority group is suffering the same fate. The atheist community, for example, suffers from the same infiltration of left-wing regressive nutjobs. This forum has HF. It's everywhere. Anyway, my main concern is that, in the end (tinhat on), governments will use this bullshit to justify further censorship of the media, and, especially, the internet. I knew a girl at university that thought the term history should be banned, apparently it should be personstory. It never even occurred to me the his part of the word referred to gender. She took offence at fucking everything. Pretty lass too but had hairy arm pits and legs. Anyway, she was obviously ahead of the curve cos this was 25 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted October 28, 2015 Author Share Posted October 28, 2015 Probably the first sighting of the protofeminasaurus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 On 28/10/2015 at 01:00, toonotl said: Just found out about the Greer thing at Cardiff Uni. Obviously, Greer should not be censored just because her ideas may cause offence. However, I do kind of enjoy it that the militant feminists are starting to cannibalise their own. This is the manifestation of the modern notion that every 'idea' is an avenue toward causing offence. It's the ridiculousness of reducto ad absurdum practised entirely without irony. Professional offence takers are attempting to kill freedom of expression. They misrepresent arguments, aggressively avoid dialogue, and attempt to censor by way of accusations of bigotry. The discussion in the Saudi thread is an example of this crap. There is nothing wrong with the core of feminist ideas. It's about equality. Every society should strive for equality. The notion of feminism, however, has been hijacked by fuckwits. Every nobly intentioned minority group is suffering the same fate. The atheist community, for example, suffers from the same infiltration of left-wing regressive nutjobs. This forum has HF. It's everywhere. Anyway, my main concern is that, in the end (tinhat on), governments will use this bullshit to justify further censorship of the media, and, especially, the internet. So what you're saying is fuckwits are stifling speech with name-calling? Nutjobs censor with accusations of personality disorders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 3588 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 No. That's not what I'm saying. On 28/10/2015 at 01:00, toonotl said: They misrepresent arguments. Shall we move on to avoiding dialogue? Or go straight to you calling me a racist/sexist/islamophobe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted October 28, 2015 Author Share Posted October 28, 2015 Be careful man HF has been spraying the scene with his sensitive mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 On 28/10/2015 at 21:04, toonotl said: No. That's not what I'm saying. Shall we move on to avoiding dialogue? Or go straight to you calling me a racist/sexist/islamophobe? You're allowed to with a safety wink eh. I never called anyone racist/islamophobic in the Saudi thread either btw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 3588 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 I'm not sure what I'm allowing myself to do here, but if I've forced you to thoroughly bunch your knickers, I apologise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 6434 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Might go re-read that Saudi thread, I've clearly missed some handbags here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 52339 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 (edited) Dudes chill out, this is what the terrorists and the feminist slags want. Edited October 28, 2015 by Gemmill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Happy Face 29 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 On 28/10/2015 at 21:22, toonotl said: I'm not sure what I'm allowing myself to do here, but if I've forced you to thoroughly bunch your knickers, I apologise. Not at all. I just didn't follow the logic of your post at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 52339 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Repeated use of "at all". HF employing NLP to remind toonotl of his height advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 [emoji38] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 6434 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 On 28/10/2015 at 21:37, Gemmill said: Repeated use of "at all". HF employing NLP to remind toonotl of his height advantage. You're like fucking Kissinger on here, mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 3588 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 I'm not even sure there's much point arguing with someone who, by their own admission, doesn't understand the topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 52339 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 I don't like to see my toontastic brothers and sisters fight. Come on cunts, stop being cunts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 3588 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 I can't help it. Stop suppressing me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 On 28/10/2015 at 21:45, toonotl said: [emoji38] I'm not even sure there's much point arguing with someone who, by their own admission, doesn't understand the topic. Here I am begging for a dialogue, opening the debate, wanting to learn, and understand your perspective, and you shut it down. I wasn't fussed really, but you stepped to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 On 28/10/2015 at 21:48, Gemmill said: I don't like to see my toontastic brothers and sisters fight. Come on cunts, stop being cunts.The women i respect and admire tell me not to use the word 'cunt' It's 'coconut' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 3588 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 On 28/10/2015 at 21:55, Happy Face said: Here I am begging for a dialogue, opening the debate, wanting to learn, and understand your perspective, and you shut it down. I wasn't fussed really, but you stepped to me You have a funny way of attempting to engage in a discussion. On 28/10/2015 at 20:30, Happy Face said: So what you're saying is fuckwits are stifling speech with name-calling? Nutjobs censor with accusations of personality disorders? This is a sincere request to engage in dialogue, huh? Yeah, right. Come on, HF. If you want to attempt to take the high ground you need to remember what you've said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 6434 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Fellas, did you guys not see Gemmill's heart felt plea earlier on? Poor guy's gonna be crying himself to sleep at this rate... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 52339 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 All I am saying is give peace a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 3588 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Fwiw, I think HF is a good guy. I enjoy his articles that he posts on here non-stop. HF: My original point was that criticism of ideas is a good thing, yet debate about sensitive topics is increasingly difficult to find. I feel like the expression of balanced opinion is being drowned out by 'social-justice warriors', who, in lieu of adopting a defensible position of their own, deflect and run interference with low-brow bullshit. I'm not saying that's what you do/did in the Saudi thread. I was joking. We cool? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted October 29, 2015 Author Share Posted October 29, 2015 Go to war you pair of ducks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted October 29, 2015 Author Share Posted October 29, 2015 Carnivool? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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