"Judge me after 10 games"

[Kid Dynamite 6985]

[The Fish 10681]

No one agrees with you lol

You sure about that?

[trooper 940]

We're in a worse position than last season yet there's still no alarm bells going off....

P-10-13pts - 12th position 2014/15

P-10- 6pts - 19th position 2015/16

There should be cause for concern as we have less than half the points than we had at this stage last year. I understand people saying we're playing better football than when we were under Pardew/Carver but we're not doing it for a full game. Our next 4 games are

Stoke City (h)

Bournemouth (a)

Leicester (h)

Crystal Palace (a)

I've only got us down for a couple of draws against Stoke & Bournemouth out of these games especially if we only turn up for 45 minutes. As I said in a previous thread "the writings on the wall some will understand before others do" McClaren wanted to be "judged after 10 games" we'll he's had them. 10 games 6 Pts 19th position not very clever is it Steve ?

[Haydnator 45]

I think the alarm bells aren't going off because of the fixtures that we've had. We played 6 of last season's top 8 in our opening 8 fixtures and the only real 'fuck me' results so far have been Watford & Sheffield Wednesday in the cup, and maybe the mackem result as well. And I think everyone was worrying last year because our start was much easier then:

Manchester City (h)

Aston Villa (a)

Crystal Palace (h)

Southampton (a)

Hull City (h)

Stoke City (a)

Swansea City (a)

Leicester City (h)

If we had those opening fixtures this season we would have more points imo. And keep in mind we've been down to 10 men in 3 of our opening 10 games (Swansea, Arsenal & mackems). And, as you've already said, we've played some of the best football I've seen Newcastle play in my lifetime (which isn't very long mind. I've been watching hoof the ball almost my entire life). I think he'll be 'judged' by the fans at the end of November. Maybe even after Saturday. But I don't think we'll be in a similar situation to last season this year.

[The Fish 10681]

 

we've played some of the best football I've seen Newcastle play in my lifetime (which isn't very long mind. I've been watching hoof the ball almost my entire life).

 

 

That is without a doubt the more depressing thing I've ever read on here.

 

Here, have this on me

PNSFW

 

 

[Haydnator 45]

 

That is without a doubt the more depressing thing I've ever read on here.

 

Here, have this on me

PNSFW

 

 

Cheers pal

[Happy Face 29]

We're in a worse position than last season yet there's still no alarm bells going off....

P-10-13pts - 12th position 2014/15

P-10- 6pts - 19th position 2015/16

There should be cause for concern as we have less than half the points than we had at this stage last year. I understand people saying we're playing better football than when we were under Pardew/Carver but we're not doing it for a full game. Our next 4 games are

Stoke City (h)

Bournemouth (a)

Leicester (h)

Crystal Palace (a)

I've only got us down for a couple of draws against Stoke & Bournemouth out of these games especially if we only turn up for 45 minutes. As I said in a previous thread "the writings on the wall some will understand before others do" McClaren wanted to be "judged after 10 games" we'll he's had them. 10 games 6 Pts 19th position not very clever is it Steve ?

 

 

 

One point less than we had from the same games last year.

[trooper 940]

http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matchday/league-table.html?season=1994-1995&month=OCTOBER&timelineView=date&toDate=782261999999&tableView=CURRENT_STANDINGS

For Haydnator there ya go young 'un as you can see we weren't always this bad

[Haydnator 45]

29 points from 36 at the start of a season...will that ever happen again?

[David Kelly 1219]

 

One point less than we had from the same games last year.

I'm assuming we didn't play those games in a run though? Having such a run of games in a row surely must make a difference?

 

Obviously we have to be concerned, there's a reasonable chance we could still be in the bottom three come the begining of November but there has been positives which I don't think there was for 90% of last season. Panic stations will be certainly be reached if Troopers points preditiction of the next four games proves close to being accurate.

[Happy Face 29]

But for a Pardew one off special against Chelsea, or if we could have held on to our lead a few more minutes under mcClaren we'd be 2 points better off.

 

Small margins.

[David Kelly 1219]

For me, despite the poor points return, I've enjoyed this season a lot more than last. I suppose that's what it comes down to in the end.

[trooper 940]

As it stands just to break even with last season by December 31st

P-19 - Pts 26 - 10 position

We have to take 20 points from our next 9 games ...

Stoke (h)

Bournemouth (a)

Leicester (h)

Palace (a)

Liverpool (h)

Spurs (a)

Villa (h)

Everton (h)

West Brom (a)

[Kid Dynamite 6985]

6 of those are winnable

[trooper 940]

6 of those are winnable

I suppose they're all winnable we just need to get in the habit of winning.

[The Fish 10681]

 

 

 

One point less than we had from the same games last year.

You've not included Watford and Norwich because they're newly promoted, but couldn't you substitute them for the clubs which were newly promoted in that season? Or for the team who were relegated?

[David Kelly 1219]

You've not included Watford and Norwich because they're newly promoted, but couldn't you substitute them for the clubs which were newly promoted in that season? Or for the team who were relegated?

We've not played the teams that were relegated this season though so how would that work?

[The Fish 10681]

We've not played the teams that were relegated this season though so how would that work?

 

Well, it's not exactly a hard & fast rule, but surely you're just substituting the 18-20 placed teams for the three teams who took their place. Three teams who traditionally struggle in their first year in the top flight?

[Happy Face 29]

It's a bit arbitrary.

 

Better to total the games against all 3 and work out an avearge and see if we're beating that average. I had done this already

 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1x7yPykS6UGq8NKXr3QUdW3SBUOGukKsR4I0ivY1dTHY/edit?usp=sharing

 

1.5 points per game last season and this against relegated/promoted teams.

[Anorthernsoul 1221]

Totals, averages, relegated teams, blah blah fucking blah.

 

The fact of the matter is we simply haven't been good enough and if it doesn't change within the next month we are heading to the championship in catastrophic fashion.

Edited October 29, 2015 by Anorthernsoul

[Kevin Carr's Gloves 3809]

I still don't care if we get relegated.

[David Kelly 1219]

Well, it's not exactly a hard & fast rule, but surely you're just substituting the 18-20 placed teams for the three teams who took their place. Three teams who traditionally struggle in their first year in the top flight?

The whole thing is bollocks anyway really. Many teams fluctuate quite a bit from one season to another (like we did either side of finishing fifth for example) so how we did against them in the past is irrelevant. Add to that, the difficulty of the run a teams on, form, injuries etc and it makes comparission (at least on a basic way such as this) pointless.

[trooper 940]

The whole thing is bollocks anyway really. Many teams fluctuate quite a bit from one season to another (like we did either side of finishing fifth for example) so how we did against them in the past is irrelevant. Add to that, the difficulty of the run a teams on, form, injuries etc and it makes comparission (at least on a basic way such as this) pointless.

But this is a forum we compare & speculate that's what it's for.

[David Kelly 1219]

But this is a forum we compare & speculate that's what it's for.

Well then it needs to be done in more detail than a just the points gained in the same fixtures last year.

[Dr Gloom 21793]

I still don't care if we get relegated.

Not even a teeny tiny bit?