The Fish 10857 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 a 4-3-2-1 could work, if he mixes the starting line up a bit if we're going to continue with cisse up top, i reckon we need to find a way to get a second striker playing much closer to him, so a 4-4-2 of sorts could work. I think he might work better with Mitrovic. If that's the case who're you playing in the midfield? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 2979 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Just don't yet see what he offers in the Premier League. With Cabella and Ben Arfa I could see early doors the promise. I don't think Cabella really showed much early doors to be honest. It took him about 6 months to try and dribble past somebody. Thauvin isn't Ben Arfa quality, but perhaps he's not as big of a twat as Ben Arfa either, which could even things out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I don't think Cabella really showed much early doors to be honest. It took him about 6 months to try and dribble past somebody. Thauvin isn't Ben Arfa quality, but perhaps he's not as big of a twat as Ben Arfa either, which could even things out. I'm a huge fan of lah-de-dah french wingers. Thauvin isn't getting me tumescent yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 2979 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Aren't we all. I hold out hope that he will be a good player, but, I kind of agree, he doesn't look like he's going to be anything amazing any time soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 When you saw Wijnaldum make his debut you could see the quality was there. He's not had a wonderful start, but he's definitely got the class. Although, Thauvin put Luke Shaw on his arse and destroyed Northampton, so maybe I'm being harsh in light of his shitshow on Monday night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 2979 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Yeah. Hopefully he can come good. He's not got lightning pace, and he looked shithouse on Monday, but he's not Marveaux 2.0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1245 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 When you saw Wijnaldum make his debut you could see the quality was there. He's not had a wonderful start, but he's definitely got the class. Although, Thauvin put Luke Shaw on his arse and destroyed Northampton, so maybe I'm being harsh in light of his shitshow on Monday night. I think you're being ridiculously harsh on Thauvin there fish. Yes he had a bad game on Monday but he barely saw any of the ball. Cabella did very little over the course of a whole season and was still being given time. Thauvin came in on very short notice and did decently in difficult circumstances against Manure, destroyed Northampton, worked his socks off against Arsenal (again in difficult circumstances) and was part of a shit performance on Monday. He might not set the world alight but it's far too early to say and imo he looks much better suited to this league than Cabella ever did. I'm much more concerned about the absolute shite we've witnessed from Sissoko for most of the last twelve months and obvious problem with playing Cisse as a lone striker. Sissoko needs dropping (to show him he can be replaced and he needs to up his game if nothing else) and replaced with someone who can give Cisse more support (Perez basically). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 2979 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Yeah. Davey. You've admitted you were being harsh, but you need to admit you were being ridiculously harsh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21923 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I think he might work better with Mitrovic. If that's the case who're you playing in the midfield? one holding player (colback or tiote, if he's still alive), alongside one box to box. (sissoko or wijnaldum) with perez or de jong up front with cisse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 one holding player (colback or tiote, if he's still alive), alongside one box to box. (sissoko or wijnaldum) with perez or de jong up front with cisse. You not worried that the box-to-box would leave Tiote to do all the work and thereby put our defence under more pressure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21923 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 You not worried that the box-to-box would leave Tiote to do all the work and thereby put our defence under more pressure? it can't be worse than what we've had to endure so far. definitely worth a pop at home to the likes of watford, when we ought to be on the front foot. you could still play a 4-2-3-1 against better opposition, but it doesn't have to be quite as negative as we have played it so far. have one holding player sitting deep alongside sissoko or wijnaldum, who would have more of a license to get forward. two players sitting there doing the butch wilkins crab impression has been painful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35082 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Ray Wilkins would probably still get a game for us now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 3355 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Ray Wilkins would probably still get a game for us now. No to old to capitalise on any resale value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 it can't be worse than what we've had to endure so far. definitely worth a pop at home to the likes of watford, when we ought to be on the front foot. you could still play a 4-2-3-1 against better opposition, but it doesn't have to be quite as negative as we have played it so far. have one holding player sitting deep alongside sissoko or wijnaldum, who would have more of a license to get forward. two players sitting there doing the butch wilkins crab impression has been painful. Agree with a more aggressive 4-2-3-1 even against the better opposition. Trouble is, the players I'd have in that formation are either out of form, or out of the picture entirely/ It should be Tiote and Sissoko, but the latter is worse than Ben Arfa in terms of actually putting in a shift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 (edited) ................ Krul ................ Janmaat..Coloccini..Mbemba Colback...Tiote...Anita Sissoko...............Aarons ........Perez..De Jong........ That's how i'd start against Watford Edited September 16, 2015 by trooper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17260 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 ................ Krul ................ Janmaat..Coloccini..Mbemba Colback...Tiote...Anita Sissoko...............Aarons ........Perez..De Jong........ That's how i'd start against Watford So youre playing Colback and Anita at home in front of Wijnaldum?....are you actually Alan Pardew?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 So youre playing Colback and Anita at home in front of Wijnaldum?....are you actually Alan Pardew?... Tbh the way the starting 11 played they should all be dropped if we had a big enough squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 ................ Krul ................ Janmaat..Coloccini..Mbemba Colback...Tiote...Anita Sissoko...............Aarons ........Perez..De Jong........ That's how i'd start against Watford I know that looks attacking, but actually, that'd end up 5-3-2 with Perez & de Jong isolated up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneColdStephenIreland 74 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Agree with a more aggressive 4-2-3-1 even against the better opposition. Trouble is, the players I'd have in that formation are either out of form, or out of the picture entirely/ It should be Tiote and Sissoko, but the latter is worse than Ben Arfa in terms of actually putting in a shift. It's a shame Sissoko and his ego now believes he's a dynamic attacker and believes his own hype, when he'd be much more effective in a deeper role alongside Tiote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I know it doesn't look it but the idea is to have Sissoko & Aarons on either wing whipping the ball in for Perez & De Jong. It's got to be better than lumping it up to Cissé. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooneyToony 41 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 (edited) ................ Krul ................ Janmaat..Coloccini..Mbemba Colback...Tiote...Anita Sissoko...............Aarons ........Perez..De Jong........ That's how i'd start against Watford I would start like this... ................ Krul ................ Mbemba Janmaat...Colocinni...Haidara Sissoko.........De Jong............Wijnaldum.........Aarons ........Perez....Mitrovic.... Edited September 16, 2015 by LooneyToony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 2979 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I don't think simply throwing every attacking/suspended player on the pitch at once is the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42442 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13867 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 If you could guarantee Taylor being fit for a season, I'd play 3 at the back with him, Mbemba and Colo with Janmaat and Haidara as wing-backs because they like to bomb on. No, I'm not going to try and figure out the five other lads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooneyToony 41 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I don't think simply throwing every attacking/suspended player on the pitch at once is the answer. I beg to differ. Leave Mbemba at the back all by himself. Trust me on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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