Slayer 3 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 It was a clear red IMO. Over the ball, studs in shin. Reckless. Intent irrelevant. Ok moving on, where are the next points coming from?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4068 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Regarding being a marked man - I wouldn't be surprised if the refs had already had a chat about him so he played into their hands. Could have got away with it but it wasn't unjust. I'd asked the cunt why he booked Gini for dissent but ignored Cazorla, Sanchez and the rest of the entirely pathetic squealing bastards in red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 37257 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 (edited) As a decision the red is highly debateable. Mariner sent off the wrong player (ironically Arsenal's Kieran Gibbs) a few years back, he's got form for incompetence. His partiality and consistency in this match were dreadful. But its all the Mitrovic's fault? Aye rightyo In an ideal world Mitrovic doesn't give him a decision to make but as has been said its a fuckin contact sport and mistimed tackles happen. I preume he was sent off for serious foul play? That's for intentional offences, not mistiming due to the ball being nipped away by the Arsenal player a fraction before the challenge came in. Howay man, you don't think there was any malicious intent in what Mitrovic did? Watch it again minus the NUFC bias. It wasn't simply a mistimed tackle. Not even close. Mariner is a fucking awful referee, but we shouldn't allow that to distract us from the real issue which is that we've signed a fucking heed-the-baal. Ask yourself this: if you put a non-malicious player in that same position, say a Beardsley, do you think he ends up with his studs planted in the other lad's shin? Edited August 30, 2015 by Gemmill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 6217 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 (edited) I disagree. I don't think he went out to hurt him in the slightest. Watch it at full speed. Anyone whose even played 5 aside has done that by accident at some point Edited August 30, 2015 by StraightEdgeWizard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 37257 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Ah well we've got nothing to worry about but the referees then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 9536 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Think McClaren's defence of AM is an attempt to soften the lad's image. If he'd come out publicly & said it was a shocking tackle and words will be had in training, that'd just cement Mitrovic's growing reputation for being a headcase in the public perception. Doubt it'll get rescinded, but in a weekend of dubious decisions, it's worth a punt. Watford & West Ham will give us 4-6 points imo. And after we've played City & Chelsea we've a decent run where we can get points on the board & climb the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 6217 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 We are allowed to disagree. As long as you know deep down I'm right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 15268 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Howay man, you don't think there was any malicious intent in what Mitrovic did? Watch it again minus the NUFC bias. It wasn't simply a mistimed tackle. Not even close. Mariner is a fucking awful referee, but we shouldn't allow that to distract us from the real issue which is that we've signed a fucking heed-the-baal. Ask yourself this: if you put a non-malicious player in that same position, say a Beardsley, do you think he ends up with his studs planted in the other lad's shin? Pedro wasn't known for his physicality was he really?...think he'd have just jockeyed the Arsenal lad tbh.. Point is Sissoko got a yellow for the same thing a few minutes before. As I've said, it would've been better if Mitrovic didn't give Mariner a decision to make but if its a yellow for Sissoko then its a yellow for Mitrovic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 37257 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Pedro wasn't known for his physicality was he really?...think he'd have just jockeyed the Arsenal lad tbh.. Point is Sissoko got a yellow for the same thing a few minutes before. As I've said, it would've been better if Mitrovic didn't give Mariner a decision to make but if its a yellow for Sissoko then its a yellow for Mitrovic. Physicality is irrelevant in a challenge like that. It was a question of whether there was malicious intent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 15268 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Physicality is irrelevant in a challenge like that. It was a question of whether there was malicious intent. What I'm trying to say is Pedro would've been unlikely go in like that in the first place i.e.a full blooded attempt to win the ball. He's more likely to have just put the ball under pressure. Was there malicious intent in Sissoko's challenge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 37257 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 I can't actually remember Sissoko's challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 2598 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Where he trod on someone's toes a few minutes earlier following through on an attempt at a block tackle. You probably can't remember it because the two challenges were nothing a like. Come on PL. I don't think it's a red either but the Sissoko challenge was not even similar to the Mitrovic tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 2598 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Mitrovic definitely has a job on his hands now with the first impression he has made. No way in the world the red gets rescinded by the way. It's a very harsh red card but it did look bad. A protest would be frivolous and only piss people off. Not worth the bother. Mitrovic needs to take his medicine and make a concerted effort to fight against the first impression he has made with the refs and angry old pissy pants Gemmers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4068 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 The question for me regarding intent is that he's made challenges like that in other games already so it obviously part of his make up which is what Gemmill is getting at - whether this was harsh or not the lad has to tone it down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 28863 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 It was a clear red IMO. Over the ball, studs in shin. Reckless. Intent irrelevant. Ok moving on, where are the next points coming from?? Need to do better than that, marra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 (edited) Mitrovic definitely has a job on his hands now with the first impression he has made. No way in the world the red gets rescinded by the way. It's a very harsh red card but it did look bad. A protest would be frivolous and only piss people off. Not worth the bother. Mitrovic needs to take his medicine and make a concerted effort to fight against the first impression he has made with the refs and angry old pissy pants Gemmers. Is this a made up nickname or has there been an incident? Edited August 30, 2015 by TheGingerQuiff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 37257 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 What would a Gemmers incident entail? Apart from unbelievable hilarity and sexiness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 What would a Gemmers incident entail? Apart from unbelievable hilarity and sexiness. A pant pissing incident i meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 28863 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 A pant pissing incident i meant. To be fair, he was rather excited to meet me one time in a Town bar the name of which escapes me. Not sure if he pissed his pants in excitement or whether it was a case of leaking white wee-wee, either way he was generally over-awed.* *Apologies to J69 for discussing this 'real life' situation, I just haven't the time to get a room when I can post on here instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 37257 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Yeah that was a sex wee. Doesn't count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 28863 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Yeah that was a sex wee. Doesn't count. No worries, PL had diarrhea trickling down his legs the first time we had a pint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haydnator 45 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Whether you agree with the red card or not, something tells me that Mitrovic is going to be a nightmare for us this season. It doesn't make me like the guy any less of course - there's something very endearing about his atttiude and the way he speaks of his passion for the game and for our club and you can see in his aggression when he plays, how competitive he is and how much he wants to win. But, I worry that we might never really see the true potential of this lad. He's featured in every game this season so far and I still don't feel like I've seen really play. I don't believe there was any malice at all in his challenge and I think the red card was incredibly harsh, but no one that supports NUFC can say they didn't see this coming. I prey that the guy cools down a little and we get the opportunity to see him really play, in a game where we have a little more possession and look like we could be the dominant force, but the early signs are concerning. Also, I think the absence of Mitro highlighted the need for the club to bring in another forward - Papiss Cisse was not the player anybody wanted brought on which speaks volumes of his time left on Tyneside, I feel. Could Mitro's probable suspension be the key thst unlocks the Charlie Austin box, finally? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 28863 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 We've gone a full season not replacing players. Mitrovic being suspended for three games is not going to play a part in us getting another striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haydnator 45 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 One can hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5011 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 I'm fairly happy with the transfer business we've done, but we've not really seen them play properly yet. It's been mostly backs to the wall kind of shit (largely due to being reduced to 10 men yesterday). We aren't going to set the league alight this year, that's for sure. But we're not going to end up in that utter clusterfuck that happened last year either. I'd take a left back at this point, but I think we're well stocked in strikers between Mitro, Perez and Cisse (and some of the forgotten...). Maybe Mitro and Cisse can take turns being suspended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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