Howay 12496 Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 But he wants his teams to play football the right way!* *If the right way means getting them relegated or being spanked 4-0 off your local rivals. Aye I always thought he was overrated to fuck, the pundits always had a love in when he was getting on a run that got Wigan out of the relegation spots (until of course they went down finally) but all ignored the fact he was in charge for the entire season that saw them put in that position of needing a run to survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneColdStephenIreland 74 Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 I notice how there are no "deluded scousers" claims from the media unlike when we wanted Pardew out and they couldn't get enough of calling us lot "deluded" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35588 Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 I always quite like Martinez as he always came across as quite honest in interviews and I would have been happy for us to go after him when he went to Everton as (what I believed to be) an upgrade on Pardew. At present he seems like a complete fraud. Phil McNulty on the BBC has done this article highlighting some of his 'nuggets' from post-match interviews where he's tried to pull the wool over the fans' eyes. I was also prepared to cut him some slack whilst at Wigan because of their limited resources but I think it's now apparent that his teams just can't defend. I think they might struggle next season if, say, Stones and/or Barkley were allowed to leave. The back four seems to be a bit past its best too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10971 Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 I always quite like Martinez as he always came across as quite honest in interviews and I would have been happy for us to go after him when he went to Everton as (what I believed to be) an upgrade on Pardew. At present he seems like a complete fraud. Phil McNulty on the BBC has done this article highlighting some of his 'nuggets' from post-match interviews where he's tried to pull the wool over the fans' eyes. I was also prepared to cut him some slack whilst at Wigan because of their limited resources but I think it's now apparent that his teams just can't defend. I think they might struggle next season if, say, Stones and/or Barkley were allowed to leave. The back four seems to be a bit past its best too. Everton fan I know insists their best period was when Moyes' defensive rigour hadn't yet been totally washed away by Martinez's attacking style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7084 Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 She remembers her best period? Amazing that. Wor lass can barely remember where she put her keys last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46039 Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 [emoji38]I like that she calls her moy Moyes. Martinez's attacking style presumably translates as heavy flow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10971 Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 [emoji38]I like that she calls her moy Moyes. Martinez's attacking style presumably translates as heavy flow. In that it's bloody awful? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 I always quite like Martinez as he always came across as quite honest in interviews and I would have been happy for us to go after him when he went to Everton as (what I believed to be) an upgrade on Pardew. At present he seems like a complete fraud. Phil McNulty on the BBC has done this article highlighting some of his 'nuggets' from post-match interviews where he's tried to pull the wool over the fans' eyes. I was also prepared to cut him some slack whilst at Wigan because of their limited resources but I think it's now apparent that his teams just can't defend. I think they might struggle next season if, say, Stones and/or Barkley were allowed to leave. The back four seems to be a bit past its best too. Amazing to me that McNulty can do a hit piece like that on the Everton manager, defending the fans anger, when he wrote this piece on Newcastle defending Pardew against supporter revolt when he ran off to Crystal Palace. He says if Pardew had won a trophy fans wouldn't give him credit, but here Martinez is taking Everton to a semi-final and crediting Everton fans for seeing through it and wanting rid. I don't know if it's xenophobia that leads to undue praise for English managers, or petty hatreds for certain clubs that lead to fans getting judged to a different standard, but either way I don't see how he could defend the contradictions between the two articles. We see it time and again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33853 Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Amazing to me that McNulty can do a hit piece like that on the Everton manager, defending the fans anger, when he wrote this piece on Newcastle defending Pardew against supporter revolt when he ran off to Crystal Palace. He says if Pardew had won a trophy fans wouldn't give him credit, but here Martinez is taking Everton to a semi-final and crediting Everton fans for seeing through it and wanting rid. I don't know if it's xenophobia that leads to undue praise for English managers, or petty hatreds for certain clubs that lead to fans getting judged to a different standard, but either way I don't see how he could defend the contradictions between the two articles. We see it time and again. It's called an 'agenda' HF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35588 Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Amazing to me that McNulty can do a hit piece like that on the Everton manager, defending the fans anger, when he wrote this piece on Newcastle defending Pardew against supporter revolt when he ran off to Crystal Palace. He says if Pardew had won a trophy fans wouldn't give him credit, but here Martinez is taking Everton to a semi-final and crediting Everton fans for seeing through it and wanting rid. I don't know if it's xenophobia that leads to undue praise for English managers, or petty hatreds for certain clubs that lead to fans getting judged to a different standard, but either way I don't see how he could defend the contradictions between the two articles. We see it time and again. Had a quick look and it turns out he's from Liverpool. Not that unrealistic to suggest he's an Everton fan. Martinez has come out with some pearlers mind. I totally take your point though and his allegiances shouldn't colour his views to that extent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpirlo68 0 Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 (edited) Aye I always thought he was overrated to fuck, the pundits always had a love in when he was getting on a run that got Wigan out of the relegation spots (until of course they went down finally) but all ignored the fact he was in charge for the entire season that saw them put in that position of needing a run to survive. Bruce left Wigan in a decent position when Martinez took over too, but the media didn't like that bit Edited April 21, 2016 by gpirlo68 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Amazing to me that McNulty can do a hit piece like that on the Everton manager, defending the fans anger, when he wrote this piece on Newcastle defending Pardew against supporter revolt when he ran off to Crystal Palace. He says if Pardew had won a trophy fans wouldn't give him credit, but here Martinez is taking Everton to a semi-final and crediting Everton fans for seeing through it and wanting rid. I don't know if it's xenophobia that leads to undue praise for English managers, or petty hatreds for certain clubs that lead to fans getting judged to a different standard, but either way I don't see how he could defend the contradictions between the two articles. We see it time and again. Phil McNulty is a cunt. However, when he says the fans wouldnt have given him credit, he is just being factual. He is still a cunt though and that needs pointing out to him with cuntishness on the x axis and him on the y axis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickie 0 Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 It's unfortunate for us that at least three of the managers that have completely tanked at the toon in recent years appear to have their mates in the mainstream football media (Souness, Allardyce, Pards). This has surely contributed to the agenda that HMHM mentioned. I don't have the feeling that xenophobia comes into it, as they are quite capable of licking foreign bums as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35588 Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Phil McNulty is a cunt. However, when he says the fans wouldnt have given him credit, he is just being factual. He is still a cunt though and that needs pointing out to him with cuntishness on the x axis and him on the y axis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Bruce left Wigan in a decent position when Martinez took over too, but the media didn't like that bit Aye didn't quite fit their narrative. The bloke is good at getting teams scoring, which is evident this season as they've outscored 4 teams above them (including 5th placed Man Utd), he just has no fucking clue how to organize a defence (conceded more than 4 teams below them and every team above them). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7174 Posted April 23, 2016 Author Share Posted April 23, 2016 Suarez just scored his 8th goal in 2 games This referee s bent as fuck too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33853 Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 When are the media going to give Mark Hughes some credit? If he wasn't British they'd be shouting praise from the rooftops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 When are the media going to give Mark Hughes some credit? If he wasn't British they'd be shouting praise from the rooftops. They've just conceded 8 goals in 5 days ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33853 Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 They've just conceded 8 goals in 5 days !I know! When will British managers get some credit? Look at Pards! Hounded out but doing a steady job at Palace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10971 Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 Suarez has scored as many goals this week as Aston Villa have in 2016. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 wtf is the commentator talking about, that was never a penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22164 Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 I know how it feels to be an arsenal fan now, useless wankers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 I know how it feels to be an arsenal fan now, useless wankers They overplay every time they go forward. They get in some great positions just far too many passes, not clinical enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizza 105 Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 If it makes anyone feel better Arsenal's next game is against Norwich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22164 Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 Sunderland looking good here, pressing for the winner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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