Alex 35571 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 What did punk revolt against? Thatcher? You need to check your dates. Punk was dressing up and taking shit drugs and petered out after 2 or 3 years. Rave was dressing up and taking great drugs and has lasted 3 decades. Rave > punk. I am old enough to remember punk too. Absolutely. And I like a lot of punk (as do you iirc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 3106 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Speaking of bullshit culture. There are ads for some stupid lip-syncing show on every ad break during the cricket. Do people seriously want to watch celebrities doing a mime show? Who watches this shit? Blows my mind what some people find entertaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted July 30, 2015 Author Share Posted July 30, 2015 Speaking of bullshit culture. There are ads for some stupid lip-syncing show on every ad break during the cricket. Do people seriously want to watch celebrities doing a mime show? Who watches this shit? Blows my mind what some people find entertaining. There's your ans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted July 30, 2015 Author Share Posted July 30, 2015 (edited) Something that I've heard said on 6Music recently by some older hip-hop stars; Hip Hop is the new Rock and Roll. Dunno how I feel about it, I think I'm isolated from hip-hop's influence. Only really hear stuff like Kendrick Lamar or the classic stuff on 6Music and there's not a hip hop album I put on myself. Yet every month or so I see one of you lot putting some rap album on the "what I'm listening to" thread. Could Hip Hop affect social change? Most of it (to my isolated ears) seems to still be girls, green, glocks and ganja? Long colonised and long gone. The final straw was the ass cleavage to feminise the black man. Forget it. All gay anyway. Edited July 30, 2015 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 3106 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Kinda makes you lose respect for humanity a bit. We can explore the enormity of the universe and then discuss it on a quantum level. Yet somewhere amongst all that, Justin Beiber is considered interesting. I will never understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted July 30, 2015 Author Share Posted July 30, 2015 What did punk revolt against? Thatcher? You need to check your dates. Punk was dressing up and taking shit drugs and petered out after 2 or 3 years. Rave was dressing up and taking great drugs and has lasted 3 decades. Rave > punk. I am old enough to remember punk too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10963 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Speaking of bullshit culture. There are ads for some stupid lip-syncing show on every ad break during the cricket. Do people seriously want to watch celebrities doing a mime show? Who watches this shit? Blows my mind what some people find entertaining. Was a 5 minute bit on one of the American Late Night shows (Fallon's I think), it works as a daft game to play every now and then, but I was amazed it got a fucking tv show! It's this weird thing of "When I get home I just want to switch off and not think about anything". Cannot get my head around it. I'm not saying you should be studying the nature of existence every night, but fuck off with those police camera shows, and stop filming obnoxious idiots being idiotic and obnoxious to each other. I honestly don't think it's snobbery, it's just that so much of television is of a poor standard. I wouldn't be bothered about TOWIE if it was an honest to goodness fly-on-the-wall documentary thing with occasional pieces to camera; like "Educating Yorkshire". It's not though, it's just leaning over the fence to gossip about her down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15716 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 It's not though, it's just leaning over the fence to gossip about her down the road. Maybe it's fulfilling a part of human nature that isn't fulfilled now that we don't know her down the road any more. The "so I says to her, I says" generation had it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10963 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Maybe it's fulfilling a part of human nature that isn't fulfilled now that we don't know her down the road any more. The "so I says to her, I says" generation had it right. Don't we have that on Social Media? Where all the dramas are played out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15716 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Don't we have that on Social Media? Where all the dramas are played out? Only for/by a certain slice of the populace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 3106 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 You're spot on about TV being of a poor standard. You see brilliant shows every now and again, but on the whole it's a race to produce the cheapest shit possible whilst appealing to the lowest common denominator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3964 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 What did punk revolt against? Thatcher? You need to check your dates. Punk was dressing up and taking shit drugs and petered out after 2 or 3 years. Rave was dressing up and taking great drugs and has lasted 3 decades. Rave > punk. I am old enough to remember punk too. Was punk not a revolution against awfull indulgent shite prog rock songs that went on for 3 days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4411 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Was punk not a revolution against awfull indulgent shite prog rock songs that went on for 3 days? That's one claim. The other is it was against disco and especially the bee gees. The enduring popularity of both suggests punk failed on both counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10963 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 You're spot on about TV being of a poor standard. You see brilliant shows every now and again, but on the whole it's a race to produce the cheapest shit possible whilst appealing to the lowest common denominator. Which is why I cannot fathom the desire to meddle with the BBC. We'll see more Richard Hammond fronted idiocy and less Peaky Blinders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Was punk not a revolution against awfull indulgent shite prog rock songs that went on for 3 days? Exactly. I was just coming back to say that. "Rick Wakeman eat your hear out" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15716 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Which is why I cannot fathom the desire to meddle with the BBC. We'll see more Richard Hammond fronted idiocy and less Peaky Blinders At least there's an upside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 3106 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Being Australian, I know what none of those things are except the BBC. That channel for left-wing nutters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35571 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 That's one claim. The other is it was against disco and especially the bee gees. The enduring popularity of both suggests punk failed on both counts. Disco had already died when the Bee Gees started appropriating it (as a counter-cultural movement that is). Still think great disco endures though. Think there were some amazing pop songs that came out of it. I find it amusing when people get really fucking snobby about it compared to something like punk because in many ways they had similarities in there origins - a new style of music, escapism, underground scene etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 3508 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 which is how they maintained their notoriety after the Bill Grundy swearing thing in 1976. The best bit is the look 19 year old Siousie Sioux gives Grundy when he suggests they "meet" after. There is a doco where Glen Matlock claims Grundy was well pissed/drunk for the interview. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p25SdQEnhHI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 3508 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Was punk not a revolution against awfull indulgent shite prog rock songs that went on for 3 days? That's one claim. The other is it was against disco and especially the bee gees. The enduring popularity of both suggests punk failed on both counts. I doubt disco had anything to do with it in England except being in the same decade. You could possibly make that argument for NY and CBGBs and Johnny Ramone. The prog thing had a huge part to play, that and by 75/76 the stuff by the Stooges and MC5 had slowly filtered out further than Detroit. Bands like Joy Division and the post punk like talk about how they were listening to the Stooges and Eno, etc but it wasn't until they saw the Sex Pistols that the thought to form a band occured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46023 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Disco had already died when the Bee Gees started appropriating it (as a counter-cultural movement that is). Still think great disco endures though. Think there were some amazing pop songs that came out of it. I find it amusing when people get really fucking snobby about it compared to something like punk because in many ways they had similarities in there origins - a new style of music, escapism, underground scene etc. Chill out, Levi ActionSlax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted July 30, 2015 Author Share Posted July 30, 2015 (edited) Sex Pistols Buffalo Gals Edited July 30, 2015 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35571 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Chill out, Levi ActionSlax. More of sta-prest kid tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10963 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 At least there's an upside. I liked it, . Decent soundtrack, decent production values and decent performances from the leads. I'm assuming you'd rather binge watch that rather than Flockstars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35571 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Really liked Buffalo Gals at the time like. More of a landmark than a hip-hop classic though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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