Dr Gloom 21807 Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 I've said it before on here but my palace mate rated Gayle but said he needs too many chances to be a top premiership striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4106 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Well the defence isn't likely to suddenly start outperforming the attack at a higher level if it isn't at this level Yes but with Rafa's counter attacking style you'd think he'd already be looking at setting up the team to be able to absorb pressure. Its more of a team job than relying on one defender to get you out of trouble. We would need defensive improvements without a doubt, LB especially in my opinion. But I think it'd be easier than finding a fast, powerful centre forward Parky was talking about who you need to be able to convert more chances than not. Still question marks on that over our current pair, at that level anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13792 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Is it a counter attacking style? Away from home, maybe but At home, we set out to blitz teams and dominate possession. I don't see this a counter attacking side at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5175 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Is that only because the other teams are fairly shit though? I think the team has shown it can do both when needed, and that's encouraging. Rafa seems to be able to shape the team strategy into whatever is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickie 0 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Wish Rafa would change our tactics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4106 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Is it a counter attacking style? Away from home, maybe but At home, we set out to blitz teams and dominate possession. I don't see this a counter attacking side at all The way we're set up away from home is a pretty good indication of how we'll be set up mostly next year I think. Considering we'll be underdogs in many matches and Rafa's traditional focus on defending first. Unless there's a dramatic squad overhaul we wont be bossing possession in the premier league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1220 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Wish Rafa would change our tactics It's no criticism of Rafa to say that I'd like to see the two strikers given a go. Clearly you can't argue with the results he's getting but most of the time we've played with a poor looking Diame or Perez as a second striker. I don't see what we would lose in playing an actual striker in that role, and I think it could result in seeing the very best from both players. As I said though, we're getting the results the way we're going, so there's no great need to make the change. I generally wish the current trend of playing one up front would end though. Football is much more of a joy to watch with a partnership up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 It's no criticism of Rafa to say that I'd like to see the two strikers given a go. Clearly you can't argue with the results he's getting but most of the time we've played with a poor looking Diame or Perez as a second striker. I don't see what we would lose in playing an actual striker in that role, and I think it could result in seeing the very best from both players. As I said though, we're getting the results the way we're going, so there's no great need to make the change. I generally wish the current trend of playing one up front would end though. Football is much more of a joy to watch with a partnership up front. Agree with all of that, we're getting the results but we're playing a bloke that's doing next to fuck all. It's similar to when we went 11 unbeaten with Obertan playing and Pardew kept refusing to change him because the results were good. I still think Diame could contribute but as I said in another thread I think he'd be more of an asset to us as a CM, Mitro or Perez playing close to Gayle would do more than him there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1220 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Agree with all of that, we're getting the results but we're playing a bloke that's doing next to fuck all. It's similar to when we went 11 unbeaten with Obertan playing and Pardew kept refusing to change him because the results were good. I still think Diame could contribute but as I said in another thread I think he'd be more of an asset to us as a CM, Mitro or Perez playing close to Gayle would do more than him there. Diame has always been a midfielder whenever I had seen him before. And I've seen him look an absolute beast there on a number of occasions. But he's failed to make any impact on games playing where he is for us. I don't think it's a technical problem, he just can't seem to get involved in the game. Perez looks more comfortable there but more often than not this season he's been poor when he's had the ball. It just seems to me that the position Diame is trying to take up means he's basically playing as a striker anyway. Surely we'd be better off using a striker to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Diame has always been a midfielder whenever I had seen him before. And I've seen him look an absolute beast there on a number of occasions. But he's failed to make any impact on games playing where he is for us. I don't think it's a technical problem, he just can't seem to get involved in the game. Perez looks more comfortable there but more often than not this season he's been poor when he's had the ball. It just seems to me that the position Diame is trying to take up means he's basically playing as a striker anyway. Surely we'd be better off using a striker to do that. Aye that's what I think as well, I'd either play Diame alongside Shelvey (perhaps that would be too aggressive mind) or not at all. As you say he takes up striking positions, he also doesn't really track back much where he is so he is basically operating as a forward anyway. His finishing is also very poor from the positions he gets into evidenced by the sitters he misses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30237 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 It's no criticism of Rafa to say that I'd like to see the two strikers given a go. Clearly you can't argue with the results he's getting but most of the time we've played with a poor looking Diame or Perez as a second striker. I don't see what we would lose in playing an actual striker in that role, and I think it could result in seeing the very best from both players. As I said though, we're getting the results the way we're going, so there's no great need to make the change. I generally wish the current trend of playing one up front would end though. Football is much more of a joy to watch with a partnership up front. I agree but two up top isn't a system we're going to play next season in the PL and Rafa is most likely of the mind that we should be drilling the players into a system we can continue next year rather than having a period of adjustment when we go up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1220 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 I agree but two up top isn't a system we're going to play next season in the PL and Rafa is most likely of the mind that we should be drilling the players into a system we can continue next year rather than having a period of adjustment when we go up. I agree with how Rafa will want to set up next season, but I don't really think it's the way we're playing now. Diame is basically playing as a forward. Perez is the nearest we really have to a number 10 but he's been poor (a couple of games aside) playing in that role. I do think we're nominally set up with a one striker one number 10 formation but without a real number 10 to play there, we're not really following through with it. So in that case, we might as well play two actual strikers rather than a striker and a midfielder who doesn't seem to know where to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21807 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 (edited) i agree with all of the above but bow down to the god that is rafa Edited October 31, 2016 by Dr Gloom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 19877 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Banned for 3 games after accepting a charge for Violent conduct. How many other players will get banned for trial by media? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leon 13 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 6 minutes ago, wykikitoon said: Banned for 3 games after accepting a charge for Violent conduct. How many other players will get banned for trial by media? Loads over the next month or so while the FA stamp this new retrospective banning into place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13792 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 This kid is the shittest Duncan Ferguson the world has ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelie 103 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 I like Nitro, I think he has good potential, I think he is of value to us, I think he will score his share of goals, but..................... I think it would be as well to get shot of him as he is a constant suspension in waiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13792 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 I see it said that he has potential but he basically hasn't improved a lick since he got here tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 He's a liability everytime he plays, to hot headed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slayer 3 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 11 hours ago, Noelie said: I like Nitro, I think he has good potential, I think he is of value to us, I think he will score his share of goals, but..................... I think it would be as well to get shot of him as he is a constant suspension in waiting. Nah he's pretty shit as a striker too - stats don't lie. He's a very passionate inept liability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 10 hours ago, trooper said: He's a liability everytime he plays, to hot headed Quite a few people see it is as passion, I see it as pure fucking stupidity that is detrimental to the squad. But he's a number and we don't have many up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10698 Posted August 31, 2017 Author Share Posted August 31, 2017 He's a moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30237 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Slayer said: Nah he's pretty shit as a striker too - stats don't lie. He's a very passionate inept liability. His stats are actually fairly solid. There's plenty that you could attack him on, his stats probably isn't what you want to choose. How's life in the Championship? Edited August 31, 2017 by ewerk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10698 Posted August 31, 2017 Author Share Posted August 31, 2017 We could do with a full time head-doctor. Sort out Shelvey & Mitrovic's discipline and convince Ashley, Barnes and Charnley the error of their ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34818 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Contract killer would be cheaper and more effective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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