Monkeys Fist 42461 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Beat me to it. Also, we need an experienced gaffer to kick these fuckers into some semblance of a team. Once that's been achieved , then we can hoy it all down the pan by giving it to a totally untried beginner. Oh, wait. http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/9870513/newcastle-to-talk-with-patrick-vieira-over-managerial-vacancy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACKANDWHITEGEORDIE 0 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 I find it difficult why would he come to us, he seems to have a strong personality which I feel would clash with Ashley and Co. I wouldn't say no to him, Keegan was just as inexperienced when he took over. So yeah anybody would be better than Carver, I think the sticking point would be, he'd want his own staff. Why would him wanting his own staff be a problem. That is a norm when new Head Coaches start. Do we really need any of the dross we have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7083 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Garde let down... http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/newcastles-pursuit-remi-garde-ended-5794378 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4772 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Why would him wanting his own staff be a problem. That is a norm when new Head Coaches start. Do we really need any of the dross we have? You've not really paid attention to us lately have you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACKANDWHITEGEORDIE 0 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Beat me to it. Also, we need an experienced gaffer to kick these fuckers into some semblance of a team. Once that's been achieved , then we can hoy it all down the pan by giving it to a totally untried beginner. Oh, wait. http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/9870513/newcastle-to-talk-with-patrick-vieira-over-managerial-vacancy Remind me where Keegan started his managerial career? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Could be a masterstroke. Shocked they've even thought of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Would certainly command the dressing room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 I suppose part of the thinking here is his experience to date will be working with a team of players, the make up of which he has little/no say in, and developing them into better performers. All of that actually makes sense for the board's philosophy. But he's totally unproven, which worries me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyshinton 59 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Its not a case of being better than Charver it has to be who is best fit for our plans / needs. I would rather have him than the vastly experienced Bruce or McClaren etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Garde let down... http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/newcastles-pursuit-remi-garde-ended-5794378 Art galleries are what I look for when I'm considering a job in a new city, mind. That said, we do have some... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2207 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 I can't see us going for Vieira. That would show some semblance of vision and decisiveness for starters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 I checked his stats out on FM..actually not bad! I expect Dave to give him his seal of approval any moment now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 2988 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Not that my opinion is even in the same stratosphere as Lord Shithouse. But I think Viera will make a brilliant manager wherever he goes. He's the kind of character that demands respect and generates self-belief. Viera will be the kind of manager that Roy Keane thinks Roy Keane is without the conflated ego. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Not that my opinion is even in the same stratosphere as Lord Shithouse. But I think Viera will make a brilliant manager wherever he goes. He's the kind of character that demands respect and generates self-belief. Viera will be the kind of manager that Roy Keane thinks Roy Keane is without the conflated ego. I think he could do it. He has the self-belief and breeds confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 2988 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Yep. No argument here. Totally agree. If we manage to somehow convince him to take the reins I'll be very pleased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4772 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 I can't really see why he'd want to come here. A lot of french players who he'd have immediate sway over, I reckon Sissoko is one who would respond to him very positively. No lose situation here for a first time manager, if you succeed youve done so despite the board, if you fail (as long as you dont look as inept as carver) its the boards fault as far as the media are concerned and then you've got yourself on the managerial merry-go-round and will get a job elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawb 4269 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 I live 10 minutes from the city ground/youth ground now. Vieira isn't even the assistant manager, he looks after the youth team. One of the joiners at works son plays for them and Vieira has full blown childish rows with the under 18's, cant see it going well if this is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30642 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Every chance of him being another Keane. He has no managerial record to base the appointment on. It'd be a big risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 2988 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 I'll reserve judgement until I hear from the blacksmith's bairn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawb 4269 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 I'll reserve judgement until I hear from the blacksmith's bairn. Fair enough, kid plays for England youths and has no reason to lie to his dad like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 2988 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Every chance of him being another Keane. He has no managerial record to base the appointment on. It'd be a big risk. To me Viera is the antithesis of Keane. As I said I think Keane sees himself as the kind of manager that Viera will actually be. By that I mean that I think Keane is a fake hard man. Keane always struck me as a blowhard always trying to prove his toughness. For mine Viera is simply just a tough character. He exudes toughness and breeds confidence in those around him just by being himself. He's what Keane wishes he was and he's what Keane spent his entire career trying to prove to everyone that he could be. I could be spectacularly wrong. But that's just my view of the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 2988 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Fair enough, kid plays for England youths and has no reason to lie to his dad like I'm just being a dickhead. Don't mind me. Post more and you'll get used to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7083 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 I'll reserve judgement until I hear from the blacksmith's bairn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizza 105 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 I'd rather we got someone in with some actual managerial experience, more skintflinting from the fat controller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausman 0 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Interesting what he says about Newcastle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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