Makom 0 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 So, in the first instance, you cite free markets as a reason not to restrict pay. Then you want to ban them playing at a higher level - hardly a free market approach. This would mean that Austin would have to play in The Championship next season in spite of scoring 17 goals in the premier league this season. Please tell me you are on the wind-up. It's no less of a windup than claiming that just because Austin put a shift in, there shouldn't be any change to the current model, where out of the trio of players, managers and directors, it's the players who suffer the least for performing poorly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10855 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Top actors, musicians, lawyers, business folk, all get paid more than footballers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makom 0 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 You sure about that? The highest paid business executives make in a year what the highest paid footballers make in a month. The highest draw actors like Tom Cruise might earn more in a year than Ronaldo, but not much more, and certainly not for as little time at the coal face. I can't think of a single top musician or lawyer who would even come close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10855 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 You sure about that? The highest paid business executives make in a year what the highest paid footballers make in a month. The highest draw actors like Tom Cruise might earn more in a year than Ronaldo, but not much more, and certainly not for as little time at the coal face. I can't think of a single top musician or lawyer who would even come close. I am sure of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3888 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 I am sure of that. You're wrong about a lot of things you're sure about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10855 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 You're wrong about a lot of things you're sure about. Aren't we all sunshine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10855 Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 Bill Gates: He earned $11.5 billion this year which works out to be ~$33.3 million per day; $1.38 million per hour; or ~$23,148 per minute. Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/what-warren-buffett-makes-per-hour-2013-12#ixzz3aTMyz5AH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACKANDWHITEGEORDIE 0 Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 Top actors, musicians, lawyers, business folk, all get paid more than footballers. I would agree top actors and musicians earn a lot more than footballers but the profits they produce for the film and record companies is much higher than say what Rooney generates at OId Trafford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10855 Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 I would agree top actors and musicians earn a lot more than footballers but the profits they produce for the film and record companies is much higher than say what Rooney generates at OId Trafford. I don't follow your point? Rooney becomes part of the team that delivers Champions League football and the bounty that comes with being thought of as one of the football's elite. The shirt sales, commercial partnerships, sponsors, media attention, etc. are all linked to signing and employing players like Wayne Rooney. Think of it like Di Caprio signing up to do a movie, people will go and see it because he's in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35072 Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 if we didn't wtach it the TV money and the wages would come down soon enough It's because so many people wtach on TV (as opposed to turning up in the flesh) that the meeja and ad guys can pay the cash same as F1 or the Indian Creeket guys Say whta? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 2978 Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 I would agree top actors and musicians earn a lot more than footballers but the profits they produce for the film and record companies is much higher than say what Rooney generates at OId Trafford. What 'profit' does Rooney generate at Old Trafford? How does that compare to actor/musician 'produced profit'? Is your colossal stupidity the result of trauma or centuries of inbreeding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted May 19, 2015 Author Share Posted May 19, 2015 Perfect example is Raheem Sterling. Done relatively fuck all in his short time in the first team, demanding 100k plus a week. Obviously his agent is a massive cunt, but it's outrageous all the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10855 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Perfect example is Raheem Sterling. Done relatively fuck all in his short time in the first team, demanding 100k plus a week. Obviously his agent is a massive cunt, but it's outrageous all the same. It's just a lazy stereotype though isn't it? The overwhelming majority of footballers aren't on offensive wages and those that are have mitigating reasons for the inflated wage. Even in the Premier League the average wage is £31k a week, which is no doubt skewed dramatically by Man City, Man Utd & Chelsea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6582 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 The whole idea is just ludicrous. Imagine a player working his bolllocks off, being player of the season when the rest of the team don't give a shit and you're not allowed back in the PL for a year. Its a farcical ideal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10855 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 The whole idea is just ludicrous. Imagine a player working his bolllocks off, being player of the season when the rest of the team don't give a shit and you're not allowed back in the PL for a year. Its a farcical ideal ? You've lost me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6582 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Im not responding to you. Mako suggested a player couldn't play in the same division if he left a sinking ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10855 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Im not responding to you. Mako suggested a player couldn't play in the same division if he left a sinking ship. What a stupid idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted May 19, 2015 Author Share Posted May 19, 2015 It's just a lazy stereotype though isn't it? The overwhelming majority of footballers aren't on offensive wages and those that are have mitigating reasons for the inflated wage. Even in the Premier League the average wage is £31k a week, which is no doubt skewed dramatically by Man City, Man Utd & Chelsea. Imagine earning 30 grand a week! That's right, you couldn't. That's half the problem, that is now seen as normal at the highest level. Over half the fuckers aren't worth 3k a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10855 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Imagine earning 30 grand a week! That's right, you couldn't. That's half the problem, that is now seen as normal at the highest level. Over half the fuckers aren't worth 3k a week. Some chinless gimps in finance earn 30k before lunch, and with as little effort or care for the likes of you and me. Your ire would be better aimed at them, than at boys whose career is 12 years max, in an industry where the disparity between those with and those without is massive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACKANDWHITEGEORDIE 0 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Some chinless gimps in finance earn 30k before lunch, and with as little effort or care for the likes of you and me. Your ire would be better aimed at them, than at boys whose career is 12 years max, in an industry where the disparity between those with and those without is massive. If 12 years is the max how come Gerrard lasted 17 years playing in the PL. That probably works out at an extra £50 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10855 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 If 12 years is the max how come Gerrard lasted 17 years playing in the PL. That probably works out at an extra £50 million. I was obviously talking generally, now wasn't I? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 2978 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makom 0 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 The whole idea is just ludicrous. Imagine a player working his bolllocks off, being player of the season when the rest of the team don't give a shit and you're not allowed back in the PL for a year. Its a farcical ideal As farcical as allowing the 10 other players to find other PL clubs on the same wages? Your scenario is as rare as rocking horse shit, it's not remotely a sensible reason not to implement some form of performance related penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted May 19, 2015 Author Share Posted May 19, 2015 I read earlier that Glen Johnson is on 120k a week! He is absolute parcel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1244 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 He's not worth £120 a week. The bloke has robbed a living for years. Fucking horrendous footballer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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