The Fish 10856 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Not really. Your mindless optimism has been entertaining but it is mindless. If we stay up it'll be a fluke. "Mindless"? Behave man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7083 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Wrong-minded. Better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44853 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 "Mindless"? Behave man. The fact that it's going to the last day should tell you that there has been and remains very little to be optimistic about. If we stay up, it will likely be because Man United do us a favour. Where is the call for optimism in that? Now stop being silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4378 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 That's ridiculous. A common criticism of Pardew was that he was unable to get the most out of a group of great players. That delusion seems to have disappeared with the players now more accurately cast as shite. Pardew managed to at least get the odd good run out of them. I'd like to think we now have a better perspective on the quality of resources Pardew was working with.His record against man utd, arsenal, man city and of course the mackems suggest otherwise. His great run this year, Chelsea apart (fair play) was against 5 teams who were all dogshit at the time. Apart from yesterday we haven't played anyone as bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10856 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 The fact that it's going to the last day should tell you that there has been and remains very little to be optimistic about. If we stay up, it will likely be because Man United do us a favour. Where is the call for optimism in that? Now stop being silly. The fact that it's been an unbelievable run of form that all but emotionally invested fans couldn't have predicted should tell you that your collective pessimism was in the face of what an objective observer would have predicted. The "Wuh shit man we'll fucking lode every game cos Wuh shit and that." Is mindless and that it has unfortunately come to pass doesn't mean those predicting catastrophe were somehow prescient. It just means that if you keep saying it'll rain, eventually you'll be right. The games we had should have delivered safety games ago. Looking at QPR's form, their players, their relegation, and everything else had bookies and pundits predicting we'd pick up a point. But it's obviously easier to wail & cry and predict doom, because nobody picks you up on it afterwards. Nobody predicted anything but a loss against West Brom, did they? All along I've said we'd stay up, not because we're any good, but simple that the other teams were equally shit or worse and we had accumulated enough of a cushion. People think that's "mindless" fine, but I've clearly considered it and come to the conclusion that Burnley and QPR would be relegated, leaving one spot left, and Hull, sunderland and Leicester were unlikely to all leapfrog us. Well, looking here, it remains unlikely that they will. But aye, I'm mindless and those who "predicted" a loss in every game are oracles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7083 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Two bottles of Pimms and a cheeky bottle of Dubonnet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44853 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 So those that were right are stupid, and you, all completely wrong by your lonesome are the one that knew the crack. We've been predicting rain and it has been fucking hossing it down for months. You've been lying on your towel constantly reapplying suntan lotion the whole time. And yet "when we don't get relegated, you're all gonna look pretty stupid." Carver makes more sense than you at the minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10856 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 like I said, not bothered if you all want to take out your frustration at the team on me, but some of the carry on, on here makes teenage girls look calm and reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graing 15 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 So those that were right are stupid, and you, all completely wrong by your lonesome are the one that knew the crack. We've been predicting rain and it has been fucking hossing it down for months. You've been lying on your towel constantly reapplying suntan lotion the whole time. And yet "when we don't get relegated, you're all gonna look pretty stupid." Carver makes more sense than you at the minute. He's baiting you man, only logical explanation I can come up with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7083 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 like I said, not bothered if you all want to take out your frustration at the team on me, but some of the carry on, on here makes teenage girls look calm and reasonable. Look inside, and you will see you are doing this to yourself. Also, I'm concerned you're hanging about with teenage girls again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10856 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Look inside, and you will see you are doing this to yourself. Also, I'm concerned you're hanging about with teenage girls again. Yeah I'm definitely the one calling me deluded and so on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9772 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Fish is the new Parky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10856 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 No bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5219 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 The fact that it's been an unbelievable run of form that all but emotionally invested fans couldn't have predicted should tell you that your collective pessimism was in the face of what an objective observer would have predicted. The "Wuh shit man we'll fucking lode every game cos Wuh shit and that." Is mindless and that it has unfortunately come to pass doesn't mean those predicting catastrophe were somehow prescient. It just means that if you keep saying it'll rain, eventually you'll be right. The games we had should have delivered safety games ago. Looking at QPR's form, their players, their relegation, and everything else had bookies and pundits predicting we'd pick up a point. But it's obviously easier to wail & cry and predict doom, because nobody picks you up on it afterwards. Nobody predicted anything but a loss against West Brom, did they? All along I've said we'd stay up, not because we're any good, but simple that the other teams were equally shit or worse and we had accumulated enough of a cushion. People think that's "mindless" fine, but I've clearly considered it and come to the conclusion that Burnley and QPR would be relegated, leaving one spot left, and Hull, sunderland and Leicester were unlikely to all leapfrog us. Well, looking here, it remains unlikely that they will. But aye, I'm mindless and those who "predicted" a loss in every game are oracles. Up until very recently, I'd be inclined to agree that yeah, it was always extremely unlikely, from an outsider looking in - even to Ashley apparently - that it'd come to this. But in recent weeks you've been stating that we're going to pick up points etc, when our form has been the worst in the league by far. You've mentioned QPR's form there. It's been better than ours though, is the thing. We are, objectively, the worst team in the entire division. Also, it's not like people have been raving on here and slitting wrists etc - there's been frustration, but as you'll see in the 'should we go down' thread, quite a lot of people actually want us relegated. I can totally see that you've tried to look at this rationally - problem is, this club is nowhere near fucking rational. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7083 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 I think my estimate was too low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10856 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Up until very recently, I'd be inclined to agree that yeah, it was always extremely unlikely, from an outsider looking in - even to Ashley apparently - that it'd come to this. . Which has always been my point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5219 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Yeah but it's the more recent weeks thing that has been ours... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5219 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 All of this said mind, I still don't begrudge you having your opinion, especially not one that I shared a few weeks back. It's only MT who can rightly claim to have seen this coming. All you've done is cling to hope longer than anyone else - and you may still be right in the end. By the most slender of margins imaginable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7083 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Fish if we stay up.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10856 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Yeah but it's the more recent weeks thing that has been ours... Was a point that unrealistic? Hell, we were 45 minutes from all 3points. I've not exactly been predicting hat-tricks and backflips, have I? A point against the worst team in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5219 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 (edited) Was a point that unrealistic? Hell, we were 45 minutes from all 3points. I've not exactly been predicting hat-tricks and backflips, have I? A point against the worst team in the league. We are the worst team in the league... http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matchday/form-guide.html Edited May 17, 2015 by Rayvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10856 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Table says otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33173 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Fish if we stay up.... Scenes outside Fish's London street if we stay up....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5219 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Table says otherwise. Not the form table. That says we're categorically the worst team in the league; even before this defeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10856 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Not the form table. That says we're categorically the worst team in the league; even before this defeat. Ok. But when you stretch that form table to, say, 37 games, they're the worst team in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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