David Kelly 1217 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 I'm not like, there's people on here who agree that it's not exactly blindly optimistic to expect at least a point against QPR. However, they either don't say owt because they can't be arsed to get into an argument with the Pessimistic Petes, they enjoy the beating I'm taking or they're cowards Fucking Hell man, a point against already relegated, gutless, QPR and I'm unrealistically positive. Give your heads a shake. It's not unrealistically positive to thing we could get a point, just to be confident that we will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 John Carver: "Siem de Jong and Adam Armstrong aren't available for Saturday. Gaby Obertan comes back in to a squad of 21 which will travel." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34725 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 De Jong's comeback lasted a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10674 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 De Jong's comeback lasted a long time. Is he the most efficient striker in the league now? In terms of goals per minutes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 De Jong's comeback lasted a long time. He's playing players who are far from match fit he played Cisse last week who hadn't kicked a ball until Thursday it's ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6456 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Desperation to stop the worst losing streak in our history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21760 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 it's a risk worth taking. a half fit cisse has to be worth a shout ahead of gouffran ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10674 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 it's a risk worth taking. a half fit cisse has to be worth a shout ahead of gouffran ffs a half fit chair leg is worth a shout ahead of Gouffran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3788 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 a half fit chair leg is worth a shout ahead of Gouffran. I still think a half fit Gouffran is better than a fully fit Obertan. But that is more a mark of the low regard I have for Obertan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10674 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 I still think a half fit Gouffran is better than a fully fit Obertan. But that is more a mark of the low regard I have for Obertan. I agree. By the way he's back in the squad apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1217 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 I agree. By the way he's back in the squad apparently. You were getting excited about him being back a few weeks ago! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10674 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 You were getting excited about him being back a few weeks ago! Doesn't mean I think he's very good. Just better than nothing, which is what we had at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1217 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Doesn't mean I think he's very good. Just better than nothing, which is what we had at the time.Nah he's exactly the same as nothing. Which we've had all season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10674 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Nah he's exactly the same as nothing. Which we've had all season. He'd be one I'd to get shot of in the summer. That said there's only about 4-5 players that I'd actively want to keep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34725 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Obertan's return to the first team at the start of the season was celebrated by football talent scout extraordinaire CT iirc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21760 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 when you look at the players available, it's hard to be optimistic about getting a result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1217 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 He'd be one I'd to get shot of in the summer. That said there's only about 4-5 players that I'd actively want to keep. I can't say I really want to keep any of them these days. Even the ones like Janmaat who are good players have come here just to be put in the shop window so they can move somewhere better. We need a complete new start with players who actually want to play here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10674 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 I can't say I really want to keep any of them these days. Even the ones like Janmaat who are good players have come here just to be put in the shop window so they can move somewhere better. We need a complete new start with players who actually want to play here. I don't doubt Janmaat is looking to catch the eye of Champions League players, but I doubt you'll be able to find anyone of genuine quality that isn't going to use our club as a stepping stone. At least he & Perez, have put in good shifts (on the whole) thoughout the season, better application than "honest" pros like Williamson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1217 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 I don't doubt Janmaat is looking to catch the eye of Champions League players, but I doubt you'll be able to find anyone of genuine quality that isn't going to use our club as a stepping stone. At least he & Perez, have put in good shifts (on the whole) thoughout the season, better application than "honest" pros like Williamson. Don't get me wrong, obviously I'd rather keep the likes of Janmaat than donkeys like Williamson but what I'm getting at is the whole club is just being marketed to better players as a stepping stone so they're never going to be properly committed (you just hope they have some professional pride like Janmaat rather than Sissoko). I know I'm stating the obvious here but as long as the fat cunt runs us this is how we are going to be and I just can't get excited about any of our players as long as that is the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slayer 3 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Don't get me wrong, obviously I'd rather keep the likes of Janmaat than donkeys like Williamson but what I'm getting at is the whole club is just being marketed to better players as a stepping stone so they're never going to be properly committed (you just hope they have some professional pride like Janmaat rather than Sissoko). I know I'm stating the obvious here but as long as the fat cunt runs us this is how we are going to be and I just can't get excited about any of our players as long as that is the case. And to stay away in droves continuously is the only way to get shot of him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 16992 Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 (edited) The (surprisingly accurate and articulate) opposition view.. http://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/queensparkrangers/news/38654/? Anyone know if this is true? Three, because Newcastle, like no other place in the UK, is a city with football at the heart of everything. You can literally, physically see it because St James’ Park stands on top of the highest hill, dead in the centre of the city, towering over everything else, visible from wherever you are within 20 miles. I’ve compared it to a cathedral, calling its church together once a week for a common cause and belief. If you go in the actual cathedral in Newcastle, an altogether less impressive structure near the railway station, you’ll find, on the mantelpiece in the coffee shop, a picture of Kevin Keegan making his Newcastle debut (against QPR) rather than one of Jesus. Go and see for yourself. Edited May 15, 2015 by PaddockLad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34725 Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Don't mind QPR, mainly for Sir Les. Seems like a lifetime ago when they finished as the top London in the top flight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10674 Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Don't mind QPR, mainly for Sir Les. Seems like a lifetime ago when they finished as the top London in the top flight. I think I view them as many people view us. Don't like watching them, think the owner has fucked them, don't add anything to the Premier League (on the pitch) and need an overhaul. Suffering a lot because of 'Arry's shenanigans. Did you hear he basically said he could have kept them up with a bit more investment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 (edited) Suffering a lot because of 'Arry's shenanigans. Did you hear he basically said he could have kept them up with a bit more investment? Aye what a fucking wanker that bloke is, completely oblivious to the absolute chaos he has caused everywhere he has been. His spending hurt Portsmouth, Southampton and now QPR (maybe Bournemouth too I guess but I don't know enough about them) buying the same blokes that only he rates and whacking them on massive wages, yet all he does is scream about what he could do with even more investment. He'd just go and buy more and more utter shite, bottom of the table and he had fortunes to bring in the team he wanted to build, chuffed that grimy rubber faced scumbag was never our manager. Edited May 15, 2015 by Howay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1217 Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Aye what a fucking wanker that bloke is, completely oblivious to the absolute chaos he has caused everywhere he has been. His spending hurt Portsmouth, Southampton and now QPR (maybe Bournemouth too I guess but I don't know enough about them) buying the same blokes that only he rates and whacking them on massive wages, yet all he does is scream about what he could do with even more investment. He'd just go and buy more and more utter shite, bottom of the table and he had fortunes to bring in the team he wanted to build, chuffed that grimy rubber faced scumbag was never our manager.Burnley spent nothing last season and were quite favoured to go down yet comfortably finished above him in the championship. This season they spent about £8m while Arry spent about £30. Yet Burnley despite getting relegated have been a credit to the leaue and QPR didn't win a single away game (did they even get a point?) under Redknapp. The bloke is an utter cunt and the reason why people are quite happy to see them go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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