trooper 940 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Will there be a back lash if (perish the thought) Carver is given the gig full time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44811 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Will there fuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1244 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 It will probably be the final straw for me in terms of my season ticket if he gets the job (of course since I'm already committed to next season he would have a chance to change my mind) but I don't see there's much chance of any kind of large scale protest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneColdStephenIreland 74 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 (edited) Will there be a back lash if (perish the thought) Carver is given the gig full time. Nah, fans just can't be arsed with it nowadays. Ashleys took the passion out of us. Edited March 23, 2015 by StoneColdStephenIreland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10855 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 What do you lot think is the probability of Carver getting the gig full time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Well i suppose if we're going to be a club with no ambition with only premiership survival of interest. Also run on a shoestring by an owner who has no respect for the fans & fans who are demoralised maybe's Carver's the pefect choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneColdStephenIreland 74 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 90/10 in his favour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 What do you lot think is the probability of Carver getting the gig full time? Â 1% Â Carver is getting the same treatment Hughton, Keegan and Shearer got. Invited to meetings told that their hard work an diligence will be rewarded before being let go without so much as a second glance. Â Why would Carver arse himself for the last 5 months of a season if the club said there was no chance of extending his position. Â The club is going to fundamentally change it's approach this summer. When the accounts are announced that will be the first time under Ashley that the club has made a cumulative profit... Â Â Â No longer is it a club that works from a loss and has to sell before it buys. There is cash in the coffers before selling anyone, we'll spend that cash. We might still sell players when good offers come in, but that will only add to our warchest. Â The priority for that surplus of cash will be to earmark it for a top coaching team at every level in the club, not the makeshift set of inexperienced randoms we currently have. Ensure the kids through to the first team are getting top quality coaching. Â Secondary, we'll still chase bargains, but we'll occasionally top the squad off with a better calibre of player, rather than always getting the injury prone, unproven type that has been our bread and butter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3888 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Â 1% Â Carver is getting the same treatment Hughton, Keegan and Shearer got. Invited to meetings told that their hard work an diligence will be rewarded before being let go without so much as a second glance. Â Why would Carver arse himself for the last 5 months of a season if the club said there was no chance of extending his position. Â The club is going to fundamentally change it's approach this summer. When the accounts are announced that will be the first time under Ashley that the club has made a cumulative profit... Â Â Â No longer is it a club that works from a loss and has to sell before it buys. There is cash in the coffers before selling anyone, we'll spend that cash. We might still sell players when good offers come in, but that will only add to our warchest. Â The priority for that surplus of cash will be to earmark it for a top coaching team at every level in the club, not the makeshift set of inexperienced randoms we currently have. Ensure the kids through to the first team are getting top quality coaching. Â Secondary, we'll still chase bargains, but we'll occasionally top the squad off with a better calibre of player, rather than always getting the injury prone, unproven type that has been our bread and butter. Â Were do you get your acid? I know a guy who does very good stuff very cheaply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10855 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 I don't think HF's prediction is outlandish. A slightly less optimistic version (spending less than he suggests on players, having lower standard of coach) is certainly more realistic than Ashley risking Premier League survival to save £1m or so on coach wages and keeping with Carver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 When the only game in town for Ashley is premiership survival i just can't see him spending big bucks. Unless he does a complete u turn and decides we're going to have a go at the cups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 The only game in town was survival...but only as long as the club was reporting losses. His approach has been to cling on to Premier League status until TV money made the club profitable. Â Better coaches and players can be paid for now, without incurring a loss that he has to subsidise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3888 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 The only game in town was survival...but only as long as the club was reporting losses. His approach has been to cling on to Premier League status until TV money made the club profitable. Â Better coaches and players can be paid for now, without incurring a loss that he has to subsidise. Â yes they can but that does not mean they will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Do we know what kind of figures the tv money could be as opposed to what it is now HF ? I know there was talk of Apple & Google being involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Do we know what kind of figures the tv money could be as opposed to what it is now HF ? I know there was talk of Apple & Google being involved.  Good write up of the changing nature of the TV deal here  http://swissramble.blogspot.co.uk/2015/02/the-premier-league-tv-deal-master-and.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Â yes they can but that does not mean they will. Â They have more often than not. Only once (2011) has the club spent a lower amount on transfers than the profit/loss reported. Â Â 13/14 will be the second time that's happened, once we see the books, but then we followed it in 14/15 with the largest net spend and gross spend since Ashley arrived. Â That suggests to me that the club will continue to spend all it earns. Â The question is whether it will start paying off other outstanding debt as well. My hunch is it won't, because Ashley said it's not repayable. He's a liar, but he has been open about the relegation debt being repayable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Good write up of the changing nature of the TV deal here  http://swissramble.blogspot.co.uk/2015/02/the-premier-league-tv-deal-master-and.html I can see the FA & League cups being sacked of by nearly all the premiership clubs if the figures in this article are right £152 million for first down to £92 million for 20th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9762 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Planning :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-head-coach-contender-thomas-8900423 Â May as well scratch him off the invisible list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhh_yeah 2964 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Could be the start of YMCA though too  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorbertoSolano 0 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90-SVlLJz-Y Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33142 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 'Carver pledges Newcastle will match Sunderland's derby intensity - and promises a couple of surprises in the build-up' Â http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sport/football/newcastle/12870617._/? Â Â Seems to me the ones who make the biggest song and dance about this game, the ones who seem the most desperate to win, tend to lose. Pardew had the look of Bruce in these games and not sure if there's much separating Carver and Pardew. (That's without the brutal and deliberate weakening of our team). How the fuck we've come to dread games against a side as shit as Sunderland have been these couple of years defies belief, at least when we were routinely beating them they could say we were beaten by a good side fighting for CL football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 "In the last four games, Sunderland have outworked us and that's not a good stat to have. I'll be making sure that doesn't happen again and I'll be using a whip to make sure we don't get outworked" Â 50 shades of Geordie John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7025 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 He's the got the benefit of the doubt with me. Â We've been outworked, outrun and outtackled by the likes of Cattermole for 4 games on the bounce. They need a rocket up their arse and this the one game of the season that Carvers style might actually work. Pardew's style certainly fucking didn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35063 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 Feel like a Mackem for saying as much but would probably take a win in exchange for no more points this season. Might get half of that bargain anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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