Alex 35616 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Chez is basically CT-lite these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2207 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Nothing will make me wish Pardew was still our manager. There's nothing to like about a clueless vain bullshitter with no top lip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Used to paint his toenails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2927372/Newcastle-pursue-Derby-boss-Steve-McClaren-new-manager-summer-John-Carver-handed-Magpies-job-end-season.html Number 1 target McLaren fuckin' 'ell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5311 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Won't happen if Derby get promoted but in fairness, he's better than Pardew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Won't happen if Derby get promoted but in fairness, he's better than Pardew. Poor excuse for signing him Rayvin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5311 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 True. Just looking for positives, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10972 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2927372/Newcastle-pursue-Derby-boss-Steve-McClaren-new-manager-summer-John-Carver-handed-Magpies-job-end-season.html Number 1 target McLaren fuckin' 'ell. Â Trooper man, there's nothing in that article to suggest it's true. Â Give it a couple of weeks and De Boer will be favourite once more, then it'll be Garde. Bookies have zero insight, papers have very little more than that! Â Chill winston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Trooper man, there's nothing in that article to suggest it's true. Â Give it a couple of weeks and De Boer will be favourite once more, then it'll be Garde. Bookies have zero insight, papers have very little more than that! Â Chill winston. Nee bother mate cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1260 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Won't happen if Derby get promoted but in fairness, he's better than Pardew.As has already been said, we'll be looking at him if he fails to get promotion with Derby. Fucking hiliarious that's what we'd be banking on. No lads we don't want to try and sign a manager who may be able to win things, what we want is to put the bloke who puts out the cones in til the end of the season and then appoint someone who's just failled at their last job! Fucking genius. Reading Moncur's shite about how Carver will have the team organised is fucking laughable. He couldn't help Pardew get us organised (we've looked anything but organised for the majority of the last three seasons) and now we're supposed to believe he can do it on his own? Do me a fucking favour Bob. Moncur might have been the last captain to win anything for us but his opinions are fucking worthless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneColdStephenIreland 74 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 A worse decision that when Blackburn appointed Steve Kean. If we wanted to get a manager we'd have done so and them saying well get one in the summer is bollocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10972 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 A worse decision that when Blackburn appointed Steve Kean. If we wanted to get a manager we'd have done so and them saying well get one in the summer is bollocks. But we're definitely not getting a manager, they've repeatedly stated it's a head coach role. I wouldn't expect a British manager to take that role (other than McClaren) and if that's the case I'm optimistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7084 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 The £3.5m compensation may give Ashley the idea to go for a young promising manager with the hope that another club will come in and offer us a fuckload of money for his services. "The club aims to maximise its commercial revenues".  Maybe we need a Head Coach Academy? Balance Sheet School? Ruthless Capitalism Cathcuntery? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneColdStephenIreland 74 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 But we're definitely not getting a manager, they've repeatedly stated it's a head coach role. I wouldn't expect a British manager to take that role (other than McClaren) and if that's the case I'm optimistic. Head Coach/ Manager whatever. We're not going to get a good one. If they really wanted Mclaren they'd have gone and got him. No chance he'd have rejected an approach, him saying he's got a job to do at Derby is lip service, every manager does that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10972 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 (edited) Head Coach/ Manager whatever. We're not going to get a good one. If they really wanted Mclaren they'd have gone and got him. No chance he'd have rejected an approach, him saying he's got a job to do at Derby is lip service, every manager does that.  Such an easy thing to say though isn't it? Even if we do get Garde or De Boer or whomever, if they do take us further than Pardew did you can say they're lucky, if they don't you're right.  Also, McClaren not coming now probably has more to do with having to pay to break his contract at Derby and we're not sufficiently attractive to him to break up with his current squeeze. Put it this way  Say he stays at Derby, gets them to the playoffs but they fall at the last because they finished 3rd and the team who finished 5th just came off a 6 game winning streak in the normal season and have that momentum. His reputation remains strong and he could either stay at Derby or accept one of the many Premier League jobs that'd open up to him (basically anyone who just manages to stay up).  Or  He joins Newcastle and keeps us up, well that's probably what's going to happen anyway. He knows that his reputation isn't going to get a bump by taking us to 10th every season.  Now, Garde, De Boer or Tuchel all know that getting us to 10th is going to improve their stock, they're all used to operating under a DoF and so that facet of the deal won't bother them too much. Edited January 27, 2015 by The Fish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 FFS, rename him the Goldfish please. This "we'll get someone good in summer" shite is just like the senior striker we were definitely going to get last summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 If they'd already agreed for someone to take over in the summer, fair enough. They have, in their words, deferred looking until the summer - couple this with mouthpiece Moncur already suggesting Carver could go beyond summer. It's obvious what's coming. 16 interim games softens us up so that when he's appointed (provided he stays up) the fury that would have been there isn't and any that is dies down over the summer break. Anybody that thinks we're waiting until this summer to get a respectable coach in is a bit of a tit imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3984 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 I confidently predict we will either get relegated or in 5 games time when the valiant point against Burley which marked the high point of Carvers career is but a dim and distant mempry they will panic buy a coach who will turn out to be total dogshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Last year we were promised big summer spending in the summer after Cabaye's sale at around renewal time. What was our net spend? This time it's the promise of a new boss. And some still lap it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Its Carver either way you look at it, if we stay up he'll get it & if we get relegated he'll get it because you can forget about Garde,De Boer, & co coming to a champioship club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10972 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 (edited)  DOOOOOM  We're not going to get a Head Coach in the summer But if we do he'll be shit and if he's not he won't be backed and if he is they'll be shit and if they're not they'll be sold and if they're not we'll still be out of the cups by January and if we're not we'll be relegated   How do you get through the day without drawing a blade across your own throat? Edited January 27, 2015 by The Fish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35616 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 As much as I dislike him and his vision for the club I try to look at it from Ashley's point of view. Keeping Carver until the end of the season when relegation is unlikely (we're 8 points clear of the drop zone and most relegated teams average less than a point a game over the course of season) makes sense as it saves money. Appointing Carver full-time come the summer makes no sense at all as it massively jeopardises the club's Premier League status next season, which in turn would cost Ashley a lot of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31229 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 As much as I dislike him and his vision for the club I try to look at it from Ashley's point of view. Keeping Carver until the end of the season when relegation is unlikely (we're 8 points clear of the drop zone and most relegated teams average less than a point a game over the course of season) makes sense as it saves money. Appointing Carver full-time come the summer makes no sense at all as it massively jeopardises the club's Premier League status next season, which in turn would cost Ashley a lot of money.  With each Premier League position worth an additional £1.2m you'd have to wonder though whether there wasn't someone better than Carver willing to come in for five months to fill the gap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Surely the end of this season would be perfect for a foreign coach to find his feet. No blade across my throat. Realism prevents the eventual disappointment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5311 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 (edited) As Koeman has apparently claimed though, managers don't need time to find their feet. Even Pulis said he'd only need 4 games. Edited January 27, 2015 by Rayvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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