David Kelly 1245 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 No one ever wished for Carver though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 While Pardew is a cunt and shit manager, at least he is a manager. Carver would never be employed as a manager at any other club in the top couple of divisions at least. Nail on the head tbh. Carver was basically there to provide a link between the players and the manager it would seem, the bloke has temper tantrums like a five year old and what seems like very little tactical nous, he's just not cut out for it basically. I think we're in real trouble if he is in charge until the end of the season as I don't see him picking up many points let alone the 18 or so it'll take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Surely it's implicit that the wish for better was included in the wish for Pardew to leave? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21923 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 No one ever wished for Carver though. Â plenty wanted pardew out, without ever really knowing if ashley would bring in anyone better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21923 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Surely it's implicit that the wish for better was included in the wish for Pardew to leave? Â not while the fat cunt is in charge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Â not while the fat cunt is in charge! eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21923 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 i felt pardew's time was up personally, but i've always been worried about the next appointment because of ahsley's, frankly, shit record in that department. i'd like to think ashley won't leave carver in till the end of the season if he keeps this form up, but i wouldn't be surprised if he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21923 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 (edited) eh? Â you can wish for pardew to go, but as long as ashley is in charge, that wish won't necessarily be a wish for something better, is the point. Â edit - because who the fuck knows who we'll end up with? whoever it ends up being, it'll almost certainly be someone shit. there's nothing in ashley's record so far to suggest otherwise. Edited January 20, 2015 by Dr Gloom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Â you can wish for pardew to go, but as long as ashley is in charge, that wish won't necessarily be a wish for something better, is the point. Â You're suggesting that some people were wishing for worse than Pardew? Â Anybody wanting Pardew out is implicitly wishing for better. Surely? Â That their wish may never come true is irrelevant, they're still wanting better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7083 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 I wish for some better wallpaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015  You're suggesting that some people were wishing for worse than Pardew?  Anybody wanting Pardew out is implicitly wishing for better. Surely?  That their wish may never come true is irrelevant, they're still wanting better.   I still stand by the view that changing Pardew was either a short term win or a long term win.  It's short term if we get a better manager  It's long term if we get relegated due to Ashley's poor decision making, and he's forced to sell us on. Of course that doesn't mean that he'd be able to, but at the same time we become a lot less attractive as an asset in the Championship.  The worst case scenario for me is that we get no change at all (i.e. someone of Pardew's ability) and stay midtable cannon fodder. But then we've not lost anything in losing Pardew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30610 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Â Â It's long term if we get relegated due to Ashley's poor decision making, and he's forced to sell us on. Of course that doesn't mean that he'd be able to, but at the same time we become a lot less attractive as an asset in the Championship. Â Â He wouldn't be forced to sell us though. He's capable of bankrolling us for a while with the parachute payments to lessen the burden. He'd much rather take the chance on getting us back up with the value of his asset restored than sell us at a cut price while in the Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21923 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Â You're suggesting that some people were wishing for worse than Pardew? Â Anybody wanting Pardew out is implicitly wishing for better. Surely? Â That their wish may never come true is irrelevant, they're still wanting better. Â wishing, hoping, dreaming. whatever you want to call it. Â most of us wanted pardew out, in the hope that ashley would buck the recent trend and appoint someone decent. i'm pleased pardew has gone - his brand of football made me want to hurt myself. Â i hope i'm wrong about ashley. but the reality is, if you look at the recent evidence, that he'll probably appoint a replacement every bit as shit as pardew, or possibly even more shit, if, as looks likely, he sticks with carver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21923 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015   I still stand by the view that changing Pardew was either a short term win or a long term win.  It's short term if we get a better manager  It's long term if we get relegated due to Ashley's poor decision making, and he's forced to sell us on. Of course that doesn't mean that he'd be able to, but at the same time we become a lot less attractive as an asset in the Championship.  The worst case scenario for me is that we get no change at all (i.e. someone of Pardew's ability) and stay midtable cannon fodder. But then we've not lost anything in losing Pardew.  relegation is unlikely to be a long term win. we got lucky last time we went down by bouncing back at the first time of asking. that league isn't always so easy to get out of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1245 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Wishing for better than Pardew isn't wrong regardless of whether the next appointment is better or not. We should certainly aspire to having a better person (in so many ways) than him managing our club. I'm sure should Ashley appoint Carver or some no mark from the past like JFK that we'll have to suffer all sorts of cunts telling us we were better with Pardew and should have been happy with what we had but they can all fuck off and die for all I care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 I don't want him but he's still better than Pardew. He's doesn't strike me as intelligent enough to manage the media well though Carver, that'll be why he won't get it. I don't think there's a filter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Michael Laudrups odds have come right down from 60/1 to 6/1 just saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-united-md-lee-charnley-8484848 Apparently this is from tomorrow's paper its an update from Penfold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7027 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Jesus Christ that's depressing  Can he labour the point any more about waiting until the summer for a manager ffs. Looks nailed on to be Carver for the next 16 games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ULSTER MAG 0 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Wish Charnley hadn't done this interview, was much better when the club said fuck all to anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 "We dont want a yes man" = we do really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 My considered response to the Charnley interview is Bleurgh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Wonder when these medium/long term plans will bear fruit. It's the 5 year plan all over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17257 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Absolutely nothing we didn't know or that anyone over the age of eight couldn't have worked out a month ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Minging by the Chronicle as well. Have they published anything to say they're unbanned? Or just hoping that we don't notice their sudden softened stance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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