Next NUFC Manager

[TheGoslingBeast 0]

I'll reserve my final judgment on Cardew until I see his starting line-up against Southampton.

If he starts Willo then it's get rid. He should start Dummett in the middle with Santon or Haidara on the left.

If he doesn't start Cabella then it's get rid.

It's not about who he starts or not start, it's about his philosophy. Carver's work together with Pardew was atrocious, does he really thinks him alone can be something better? He's absolutely shite.

[PaddockLad 17718]

Remi Garde was covering the citeh v arsenal game today and was very coy indeed apparently when quizzed about the Newcastle vacancy.... "I can't say anything today" .....allegedly...

 

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/next-newcastle-manager-remi-garde-5000594?

[Kid Dynamite 7185]

Wouldn't surprise me if he'd already signed to start in February 1st

[trooper 940]

Newcastle United are facing frustration in their search for a new manager.

 

The Sunday Mirror says chief scout Graham Carr and managing director Lee Charnley - who have the responsibility of finding the new man - are discovering that candidates such as ex-Lyon boss Remi Garde and St Etienne’s Christophe Galtier would prefer to wait until the summer – as would Borussia Moenchengladbach’s Lucien Favre.

 

Garde told them that he would want to bring his whole coaching staff from Lyon with him, and this would not be possible until the summer.

 

The Newcastle power-brokers were happy at this – but 48-year-old former Arsenalmidfielder Garde is still not ready to end the break from football that he promised himself when he left Lyon.

[Kitman 2207]

I think we're nearly at the point now where we need a "new manager bounce". 3 defeats and a draw under Carver already.....losing is becoming a habit. I don't think there will be any January signings to give the team a lift either.

[Monroe Transfer 0]

Absolute shambles, this.

[TheGoslingBeast 0]

I think Remi Garde will be an average manager, much like Pardew, not particularly terrible at anything but not great either. We need a master tactician if we're going to get something positive out of this season, but I'm willing to give Garde until the summer, then if below par(dew), Tuchel or De Boer next season.

Edited January 19, 2015 by TheGoslingBeast

[Kitman 2207]

I think Remi Garde will be an average manager, much like Pardew, not particularly terrible at anything but not great either. We need a master tactician if we're going to get something positive out of this season, but I'm willing to give Garde until the summer, then if below par(dew), Tuchel or De Boer next season.

Unless you're Mike Ashley I dont think it really matters how much time you're prepared to give Garde. Judging by Pardew, he (or whoever else is signed) will get as long as they want, provided they don't rock the boat or get us relegated.

Edited January 19, 2015 by Kitman

[The Fish 10972]

I think Remi Garde will be an average manager, much like Pardew, not particularly terrible at anything but not great either. We need a master tactician if we're going to get something positive out of this season, but I'm willing to give Garde until the summer, then if below par(dew), Tuchel or De Boer next season.

 

I've higher hopes;

 

http://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2015/friday-feature-why-remi-garde-and-mike-ashley-could-become-very-good-friends/

 

 

FRIDAY FEATURE: Why Remi Garde and Mike Ashley could become very good friends

It would be wrong to judge the silent, timid and almost introvert Rémi Garde solely on his equally short playing and managerial career during which he featured at Lyon for the most part, because such is the quality of his work behind the scenes that goes publicly unnoticed. Ask anyone that has worked with/for him and they will tell you that Garde has the interest of others first and foremost at heart and that quietly, unassumingly building a club to succeed is something that he has excelled at, as a coach and as a manager.

Garde: The Player

An analysis of Garde’s playing career is not a difficult task as his playing days came to an abrupt end (Garde hung up his boots aged only 33 in 1999). Born in L’Abrésie, a Lyon suburb, Garde trained with his local team as a youngster and played the opening five years of his career at Lyon. He became the “recognised” central figure around a side then coached by Raymond Domenech (who went on to “achieve greatness” as we all know) but the side languished in the French second tier in the late 1980s. With Garde though, Lyon were promoted and qualified for Europe just two seasons later. The emergence of one Jean-Michel Aulas, newly-elected president on the expert recommendation of Bernard Tapie – the symbolic former Marseille president during L’OMs European reign and occasional jail resident – in 1987, playing a large part in JMAs eventual appointment.

Nonetheless, after a half-decade spent at his local club during such time he partook in the Euro 1992 tournament with France, Garde decided to leave in 1993 for Strasbourg to rub shoulders with established players such as Frank Leboeuf, Marc Keller or Aleksandr Mostovoï. With them, Strasbourg reached the French Cup final, losing to Paris Saint-Germain. Paul Le Guen scored the winning goal, a figure that Garde would meet again later on.

Garde’s natural curiosity in terms of wanting to experience different managing techniques in altered environments was a key driver in his decision to move abroad. In the summer of 1996 he relocated to England (not that popular or common a move for a French player to make 20-odd years ago) to join the French revolution under Arsène Wenger at Arsenal. We cannot say that Garde was an integral part of Wenger’s double-winning team of 1998/99 (42 games in 3 years tells its own story) but it is definitely in North London that Garde realises he has a future in the game once his playing days are over. Garde could have persevered for another couple of seasons on the pitch (he had a persistent knee injury, yes, but his motivation had probably already gone anyway) when he decided that he wanted to stay in the footballing world as an educator. Being the good pupil he is, Garde asked Wenger for advice who encourages him to pursue such a career path, to embark upon a new chapter in the world of football coaching.

Lyon manager

And so it is back home for young Rémi, the freshly retired player and inexperienced manager. He entered the Lyon set-up in 2003 as part of the technical staff and was promoted to assistant manager during Lyon’s reign of 7 straight titles. This is where he encountered Paul Le Guen yet again and continued to learn his trade under experienced manager (who had also coached in England) Gérard Houiller.

Alas, Lyon’s dominance came to an end and the management structure began to shift, changing as the results became less and less satisfactory. Aulas then made quite an unpopular move to appoint Claude Puel – possibly the most hated Lyon manager in modern history – and a radical change was needed at boardroom level. Upon Puel’s arrival, Garde was moved into a position of power at the head of the club’s youth setup, charged with bringing about his President’s latest plan to life. Aulas’ wallet was shrinking and Lyon had to sell their best players (who were on big fat wages in France but on decent money in England) to keep the business going. Selling the established players and promoting youth was to be newly appointed manager Rémi Garde’s biggest test during his 3-year tenure at Lyon.

In 2011/12, Lyon still had quite a solid backbone. The club had finished 3rd the season previous and the prized assets remained (for now). Lloris, Cris, Cissokho, Källstrom, Briand, Gomis & Lisandro Lopez were behind this success, with enough established names for Les Gones to expect nothing less than a top four Ligue 1 finish. It was not however enough for Lyon to qualify for the Champions’ League as they finished only 4th some 10 points behind 3rd place. Rémi Garde’s first season as a manager of a professional club in the league therefore arguably ended in failure. Nevertheless, phrases such as “transitional stage” were brandished about as OL spent the summer of 2012 dumping their most established talents for enviable transfer fees.

Cup competitions were a mitigated experience for Garde in his first season as a manager. He did win the French Cup during the 2011/12 campaign and got his first (and so far only) experience of the Champions’ League as a manager which ended sourly when Lyon were knocked out by fairy-tale boys of the year Cypriot side Apoel Nicosia (on penalties).

One of Garde’s more applaudable feats during that particular season (2011/12) though was that he gave first team opportunities to one Alexandre Lacazette for the first time in the young Frenchman’s career, a man who is the current leading goalscorer in Ligue 1. Having had oversight of the club’s academy the season previously, Garde was perfectly positioned with all the knowledge that he had acquired over the previous twelve months to implement OL’s new strategy of forming a first team squad based fundamentally on the strength of there youth academy. Not only had Garde worked with these players before, the youngsters felt more comfortable entering professional football under their final mentor at youth level.

During the summer of 2012, the axe, as expected, fell on Lyon’s top players in order to raise cash. Lloris was sold to Tottenham, Cris left to join Galatasaray, Cissokho went to Valencia (disregarding the bad teeth episode of Milan) and Källstrom to Moscow. Those players were aptly replaced by an inexperienced but fearless youth and, surprise, surprise, Lyon actually managed more points with the rookies than the previous year with the experienced bunch. Plenty of youngsters were given their breakthrough seasons in 2012/2013 as Lyon finished 3rd again, including Maxime Gonalons, Mouhamadou Dabo, Clément Grenier, Gueida Fofana, Samuel Umtiti, Yacine Benzia and Rachid Ghezzal. Surely some of those names ring a bell today?

The third and final season for Garde at Lyon was full of dramatic highs and lows and heart-racing moments. Perhaps it was no surprise therefore that Garde resigned at the end of it in favour of a sabbatical. Lyon were knocked out in the Champions’ League play-offs by Real Sociedad (if you have seen the goals of those games, you will remember them for sure, they were sublime) and failed to find consistency in the league from start to finish, overshadowed by injury crises and Gomis’ transfer saga. However, Lyon were able to make respectable progress in the Europa League (losing out to Juventus in the quarter-finals) and even though they did not play many big sides along the way, playing so many games in a season gave the current Lyon side experience in difficult corners of Europe, even if this put greater pressure on the youngsters to perform in Ligue 1. It is in those games that Garde was able to give players like Fékir, or Tolisso the game time that they craved. Their honourable Coupe de la Ligue campaign also deserves a mention, falling foul only to PSG in the final.

People would be forgiven for thinking that Hubert Fournier is the mastermind behind Lyon’s formidable youth set-up that enables the club to challenge for the title this season but those youngsters were given their first chances by Garde. The once unbeatable title-winning ogre is marching back to its glory days thanks to Garde’s careful, initial planning. Jean-Michel Aulas’ unique and visionary masterplan is ahead of schedule, but there was no single individual who has played a more important role in its success to date that Rémi Garde.

The Newcastle situation

Now speculation is rife about the possibility of Rémi Garde becoming the next Newcastle manager. Here are a couple of factors to ponder before Mike Ashley and co decide that he is the man to take the club forward.

Garde left Lyon last May because he needed time away from the game. Is six months actually enough before undertaking such a demanding and stressful role in Northern England? Despite Newcastle not being accustomed to winning trophies, the fanbase and sheer enthusiasm around the area is nothing like at the Gerland and the whole circus that Aulas has created. If Garde needed to step back last summer because he found the atmosphere to pressurising, then the Premier League and Newcastle is not the right next step.

The fans and chairman situation is peculiar at Newcaslte and an equivalent is arguably seen nowhere else. Unlike at Lyon where the fans worship Aulas for putting the club on the map, Newcastle fans seem to hate Mike Ashley with a passion and remain a tough crowd to please these days. Staying on Ashley’s good side – who, before the Pardew days, often sacked managers for little reason – and being popular with the fans is a tough ask these days. Mr Keegan, Hughton and Pardew can testify to that effect.

Moreover, alongside the added pressure of managing a club the size of Newcastle United comes the increased media attention. Is the studious, quiet but internally fiery Garde ready for total exposure?

However, one can easily envision how fantastic a relationship Garde and Newcastle could harbour together.

He has a proven track record of giving youth a chance. The current emergence of Alnwick and Dummett prove that such a set-up already exists at Newcastle, with Oliver Kemen-esque individuals wait around the corner. Garde would be able to maximise the potential of the youth academy whilst revolutionising the setup to ensure that it becomes a focal point of Newcastle’s future success. That would go hand in hand with Ashley’s strategy if he finds himself in a “I want to sell the club” mood. Indeed, Ashley is known for being financially uptight which Garde has first hand experience with at Lyon working for Aulas.

Garde can also make the strong argument that he won a trophy in his first season as a manager. Often, Newcastle fans criticize the club management for not being ambitious enough in the cups (probably regretting the good old days of the late 90s with 2 FA Cup final appearances back-to-back). Garde may have only won the French Cup (notoriously easier to win than the FA Cup) but Newcastle fans have been dying for a trophy for over 50 years. Winning one would certainly put everyone on his good side.

Then we have the French connection. Newcastle has become a safe haven for Ligue 1 players that are already proven in France but are trying to enter the English market. Cabaye, Debuchy, Sissoko, Gouffran, Obertan paved the way for Cabella and Rivière this season. These two might need a bit of guidance in order to get the necessary confidence to perform on the biggest stage. Alan Pardew was fundamentally going to struggle with a French-heavy squad, having no experience of the culture or the language. Garde develops players, that has always been his strongest coaching asset. Newcastle’s Graham Carr-led project just needs the right driver to take this ship to sunnier shores.

[essembeeofsunderland 811]

Garde will know the french football scene better than Car so will Carr ask for assistance or continue to land players on the head coach's doorstep.

[The Fish 10972]

I'm guessing Garde will submit requests for new players and Carr & Charnley will look at the players that they're pursuing too see if any of them fit the bill. As it is, as it will forever be.

[Anorthernsoul 1221]

Absolute shambles, this.

 

It has been since the day Fat Mike walked through the door and it will continue right up until the day he walks back out.

[trooper 940]

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[Slayer 3]

Still can't fathom why people still go to the match to inadvertently support this ideology.

[Noelie 103]

Wots to fathom Slayer, it was wor team lang afore this regime, an' will be lang afta that. It's caaled loyalty te yer team, nivver te the owners.

[The Fish 10972]

Still can't fathom why people still go to the match to inadvertently support this ideology.

 

I think for some people it's just what they do on the Saturday. Others are a new breed; a consumer who , rather than go shopping with their wife will pop to the match. They're not that invested, but it's 2 and a bit hours of entertainment.

 

The fully committed supporter is a dying breed, but balance sheets can't tell the difference between them and the casual observer.

[trooper 940]

Can't help think this week in Dubai could have been utilised better with the new manager getting to know the players etc .

[David Kelly 1260]

Can't help think this week in Dubai could have been utilised better with the new manager getting to know the players etc .

What makes you think our next manager isn't there?

[trooper 940]

What makes you think our next manager isn't there?

I take it you mean Carver ?

[Kevin Carr's Gloves 3991]

What makes you think our next manager isn't there?

 

 

Hope.

[David Kelly 1260]

I take it you mean Carver ?

Indeed. In which case KCG, I most definitely hope not!

[Dr Gloom 22188]

if it's carver i think we're in for a nervous end to the season. our form, other than 6 game winning streak, has been pretty vile all season. it doesn't appear we're going to add any players to the mix and and i'm not convinced carver will do any better than pardew. in fact, he could be a whole lot worse.

[David Kelly 1260]

if it's carver i think we're in for a nervous end to the season. our form, other than 6 game winning streak, has been pretty vile all season. it doesn't appear we're going to add any players to the mix and and i'm not convinced carver will do any better than pardew. in fact, he could be a whole lot worse.

While Pardew is a cunt and shit manager, at least he is a manager. Carver would never be employed as a manager at any other club in the top couple of divisions at least.

[Dr Gloom 22188]

While Pardew is a cunt and shit manager, at least he is a manager. Carver would never be employed as a manager at any other club in the top couple of divisions at least.

 

aye, as shit as pardew was, i was confident in his ability to at least keep us in the top flight.

[Dr Gloom 22188]

be careful what you wish for with ashley in charge, basically.