The Fish 10972 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Homeopathic club ownership. NUFC, infused with the memory of football. I like that. You should try to be funny more often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Dont be surprised if Ashley gives Carver the job if he does it will be at a fraction of the cost of anyone else. Any other manager is going to want to bring their own backroom staff and want money to bring in their own players i.e. wont be a cheap option. Carver on the other hand has all the backroom staff in place already knows the craic with transfers i.e. wont rock the boat and is desperate for the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10972 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Dont be surprised if Ashley gives Carver the job if he does it will be at a fraction of the cost of anyone else. Any other manager is going to want to bring their own backroom staff and want money to bring in their own players i.e. wont be a cheap option. Carver on the other hand has all the backroom staff in place already knows the craic with transfers i.e. wont rock the boat and is desperate for the job. As has been said, I think if Carver was going to get the job full time, it'd be his already. It'd be no great surprise that he'd do it cheaper than everyone else. While it'd be par for the course if Ashley's NUFC announced Carver would be the caretaker manager until the summer, (then offer it to him in summer at a cut price) if that was going to happen, it already would have. Really hoping it'll be a Jonny Foreigner so that the press can wander about with SackGarde.com banners while we call them fickle and deluded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/remi-garde-want-bring-backroom-8422569 Garde's backroom staff would have to bought out of their contracts & Carver & co would be looking at compensation as they're contracted until 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5311 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Couldn't the £3m received for Pardew be used to cover all of that? They can't be paid that much ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Couldn't the £3m received for Pardew be used to cover all of that? They can't be paid that much ffs. Ha ha ha it's fucking Ashley man that £3 million wont be seen again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4872 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I thought woodman had gone with pardew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5311 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Again though, remember that it's not in Ashley's interests to put Carver in charge and risk us getting relegated. This might be just too early in the season for him to take the calculated risk to be honest. Also, it's much cheaper to bring in a good manager with a good backroom team than it is to buy players; if he finds someone who can get the team performing, it'll benefit him in the long run. If I was him, I'd be prepared to spend a bit more on this appointment in order to provide stability and, more than anything, good value for money for player transfers (i.e. the players we buy are used correctly and appreciate in value). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1260 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 As has been said, I think if Carver was going to get the job full time, it'd be his already.I'm not saying you're wrong with this idea necessarily but why do you think this would be the case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Again though, remember that it's not in Ashley's interests to put Carver in charge and risk us getting relegated. This might be just too early in the season for him to take the calculated risk to be honest. Also, it's much cheaper to bring in a good manager with a good backroom team than it is to buy players; if he finds someone who can get the team performing, it'll benefit him in the long run. If I was him, I'd be prepared to spend a bit more on this appointment in order to provide stability and, more than anything, good value for money for player transfers (i.e. the players we buy are used correctly and appreciate in value). This, I get peoples fear about Ashley but putting Carver in charge puts us at a massive risk of relegation even from the position we're in this year let alone giving him a full season. The blokes fucking clueless tbh. I think he'll look for a manager who can get performances out of players which would raise their value rather than just trying to save a little bit on a manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1260 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 (edited) Garde seems like a good fit for us really. He's done well with limited resources and seems to be well regarded as a coach and has been able to cope with his best players being sold from under him. The fact there's no compensation is also ideal. You would think that Ashley would be willing to spend a bit to get him the coaches he wants in his team. Let's face it, backroom staff aren't going to cost the earth. We'd more than likely be able to bring in who he wants and get rid of anyone he doesn't (I would think there's a decent chance at least Carver or Stone would stay for a bit of continuity anyway) and still have money left over from Pardew. It could be that only Woodman needs to be paid off and he won't be on much of a wage (comparitively). Edited January 12, 2015 by David Kelly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrossthepond 878 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I thought woodman had gone with pardew He was seen at the Leicester game pointing to the badge on his coat and making "I'm still here" gestures at the away fans, according to .com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14013 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 What a prick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22186 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Cue groans from the away end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5311 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Was just having a bit of a scan back through the forum and came across the thread where Pardew unveiled Carver as the new assistant manager. Seems like everyone was well on board with him being signed up then. Are we just older and wiser now or has he lost the plot a bit in the past few years? Or would we never have wanted him as a manager anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31229 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Pardewed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14013 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Was just having a bit of a scan back through the forum and came across the thread where Pardew unveiled Carver as the new assistant manager. Seems like everyone was well on board with him being signed up then. Are we just older and wiser now or has he lost the plot a bit in the past few years? Or would we never have wanted him as a manager anyway? I think nostalgia certainly played a part. Under the bad spells with Pardew, Carver has been either useless or spineless and I'm not sure which but it doesn't reflect well on him. Not only that but he was a staunch support of Pardew - to the point he offered out fans for a fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonatine 11578 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Had plenty to say about Chris Houghton getting the boot, but was quick off the mark to take a job here again too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5311 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Here's the thread if anyone is bothered: http://www.toontastic.net/board/topic/29382-john-carver/ I've never been of the opinion that he was even that good to be honest, aside from his questionable displays of loyalty. I guess SBR swore by him but even so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 If he's honest he only offered the fans out because he knew if Pardew had been sacked he was away with him. Same reason he's put himself up for the managers job because he know's whoever comes in are going to want their own people with them & he'll be down the road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10972 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I'm not saying you're wrong with this idea necessarily but why do you think this would be the case? The uncertainty isn't beneficial to anyone. It's not like Carver is an unknown quantity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Carver's probably a good fit for Ashley but not for Newcastle United. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10972 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Carver's probably a good fit for Ashley but not for Newcastle United. You'd like that wouldn't you? Filthy bastard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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OTF 7496 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Seriously we contracted coaches until 2020? Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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