Dr Gloom 21911 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 those who attack freedom of expression are attacking freedom more broadly. horrific stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30535 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4156 Posted January 7, 2015 Author Share Posted January 7, 2015 Absolutely horrific, disgraceful stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4156 Posted January 7, 2015 Author Share Posted January 7, 2015 Absolute cunts man. These sorts surely want a war between the west and Islam. Does the west want it? That reaction is what they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 3 of them have been arrested in Reims, one 18 year old and two brothers, aged 32 and 34. They returned from Syria last year. Crackerjacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Correction, they've been located in Reims, not arrested. Can see this ending badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 (edited) http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2013-05-01/non-muslims-carried-out-more-90-all-terrorist-attacks-us-soil 'The START Global Terrorism Database spans from 1970 through 2012 (and will be updated from year-to-year), and – as of this writing – includes 104,000 terrorist incidents. As such, it is the most comprehensive open-source database open to the public. We counted up the number of terrorist attacks carried out by Muslims. We excluded attacks by groups which are obviously not Muslims, such as the Ku Klux Klan, Medellin Drug Cartel, Irish Republican Army, Anti-Castro Group, Mormon extremists, Vietnamese Organization to Exterminate Communists and Restore the Nation, Jewish Defense League, May 19 Communist Order, Chicano Liberation Front, Jewish Armed Resistance, American Indian Movement, Gay Liberation Front, Aryan Nation, Jewish Action Movement, National Front for the Liberation of Cuba, or Fourth Reich Skinheads. We counted attacks by Al Qaeda, the Taliban, Black American Moslems, or anyone who even remotely sounded Muslim … for example anyone from Palestine, Lebanon or any other Arab or Muslim country, or any name including anything sounding remotely Arabic or Indonesian (like “Al” anything or “Jamaat” anything). If we weren’t sure what the person’s affiliation was, we looked up the name of the group to determine whether it could in any way be connected to Muslims. Based on our review of the approximately 2,400 terrorist attacks on U.S. soil contained within the START database, we determined that approximately 60 were carried out by Muslims. In other words, approximately 2.5% of all terrorist attacks on U.S. soil between 1970 and 2012 were carried out by Muslims.* This is a tiny proportion of all attacks.' Edited January 7, 2015 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4376 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 That'll be 97.5% carried out by Christians, Jews and Buddhists then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10838 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 What do they feel constitutes a "terrorist attack"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 (edited) What do they feel constitutes a "terrorist attack"? http://www.start.umd.edu/gtd/about/ http://www.start.umd.edu/gtd/using-gtd/ Edited January 7, 2015 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4156 Posted January 8, 2015 Author Share Posted January 8, 2015 [tweet] [/tweet] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44790 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Streets of Paris last night apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5217 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 [tweet] [/tweet] That's going to be an important message in the coming few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7083 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 That reaction is what they want. Is it what they want though? I omitted a question mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5217 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 I'm not sure these terrorists have any kind of grand plan - I suspect they're just very angry and very warped in their thinking. These guys can't have thought an attack on Charlie Hebdo would precipitate any kind of global response against islam (it's not large enough for that, although I daresay France will crack down further on Islamists in their country), nor is the newspaper any kind of strategic target. They were angry at it for depicting their prophet, and killed everyone there in order to 'avenge' him. No strategy, no plan, just anger and hate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4376 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Maybe there is no message and motive other than to carry out the proscribed punishment for those who insult the prophet. It's like the Westboro Baptists - the argument is they aren't true to their faith but I'm afraid if you actually read the holy books they pretty much are and its the namby pamby modern reasonable Christians/Muslims who are heretics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17238 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 "An attack on freedom of speech"....If you put a poster up at your desk with one of the Charlie cartoons on it taking the piss out of someone's religion I think you'd be soon having a sharp chat with your manager/ HR...I can plainly see the difference to a certain extent, but it amounts to " you've got freedom of speech, but not when it might interfere with making money" which is a pretty strange concept iyam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30535 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Grenades thrown at a mosque in Le Mans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20110 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 A police officer shot dead in Southern Paris. They havent said wheater its connected though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4376 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 "An attack on freedom of speech"....If you put a poster up at your desk with one of the Charlie cartoons on it taking the piss out of someone's religion I think you'd be soon having a sharp chat with your manager/ HR...I can plainly see the difference to a certain extent, but it amounts to " you've got freedom of speech, but not when it might interfere with making money" which is a pretty strange concept iyam.Its a hard one for me as I think going out of your way to insult someone is daft but at the same time I think you should be able to in the right context. I think sites like Jesus and Mo should be allowed but as you say someone printing one out and sticking it on a wall is going too far. I suppose the average Muslim isn't going to read a magazine like this so in a way they're just playing up to their market but that obviously shouldn't mean retribution like this if Muslims are "directed" to them by shit stirrers as happened with the Danish cartoons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15518 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 "People being directed to things that offend them" is pretty much the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7083 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 "People being directed to things that offend them" is pretty much the internet Clickbait, it's either porn, animals or outrage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4156 Posted January 8, 2015 Author Share Posted January 8, 2015 Is it what they want though? I omitted a question mark. I think this might explain to a great extent: https://m.facebook.com/GeorgeGallowayMP/posts/10152998504250797 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4156 Posted January 8, 2015 Author Share Posted January 8, 2015 Streets of Paris last night apparently. Thats class. This is one of the things I admire about the west. If you cant get together and send out a message when something like this happens, you're screwed. 50 000 dead here over the last decade or so and nobody's really fussed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7083 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 (edited) I think this might explain to a great extent: https://m.facebook.com/GeorgeGallowayMP/posts/10152998504250797 If we control our governments' behaviour then will Islam control its extremists' behaviour? I don't think either are possible as the distances between the masses and those with power or motivation are so great. So we're fucked. Edited January 8, 2015 by trophyshy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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