Terrorism

[NJS 4378]

31 minutes ago, Happy Face said:

 

I didn't say either response was right or wrong.  PL was saying how people had confronted the attackers with bottles and that, which flies in the face of what has to be police advice.  No-one should be expected to do anything but get to somewhere safe, but the 'United 93' type response to jeopardise your own safety is something that should be applauded though, right?

I read they went into a pub - I can't see why a few blokes using chairs couldn't seriously hurt them despite the knives. 

[Dr Gloom 21915]

I'd like to think I'd be able to stand up to these animals if confronted but the reality of the situation is you're facing someone brandishing a knife, apparently wearing a suicide bomb vest, who is prepared to take their own lives in order to kill others. Even the hardest nutters in the country would probably leg it.

[NJS 4378]

Yeah the vests were a "good" tactic from that pov but I've seen pub fights involving heed the balls and I'm still surprised nobody tried. 

 

 

[Dr Gloom 21915]

Londoners are generally soft as shite pacifists - particularly in that area, which is full of tourists, students and the general metropolitan liberal elite. Might have turned out differently if they'd tried that shit in Canning Town or Croydon. 

[Christmas Tree 4725]

22 minutes ago, NJS said:

Yeah the vests were a "good" tactic from that pov but I've seen pub fights involving heed the balls and I'm still surprised nobody tried. 

 

 

 

I think it will probably emerge that a few of those dead or in hospital did.

[Kid Dynamite 7025]

That would be useful a torture method to interrogate prisoners for information 

[Dr Gloom 21915]

Apparently the copper who is in hospital after being stabbed by these shits took all three of them on by himself armed only with a baton. Balls of steel 

[Ken 119]

25 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

Apparently the copper who is in hospital after being stabbed by these shits took all three of them on by himself armed only with a baton. Balls of steel 

Bit of a disadvantage that isn't it? Maybe if he had a gun...

[Monkeys Fist 42413]

52 minutes ago, Ken said:

Bit of a disadvantage that isn't it? Maybe if he had a gun...

They could've disarmed him and then been even more dangerous? 

[Renton 21609]

6 hours ago, Happy Face said:

 

I didn't say either response was right or wrong.  PL was saying how people had confronted the attackers with bottles and that, which flies in the face of what has to be police advice.  No-one should be expected to do anything but get to somewhere safe, but the 'United 93' type response to jeopardise your own safety is something that should be applauded though, right?

 

Eh? Strange to use Uniited 93 as an example. The passengers there had no choice but to try or die anyway. 

 

One good thing about this country is the fact we have so few circulating fire arms, particularly semi automatic rifles. Imagine if these arseholes had Kalishnikovs like so many of the French attacks?

 

Also, a response rate of 8 minutes is massively impressive. Please don't arm regular police. 

[Dr Gloom 21915]

Yes, you're average bobby on the street doesn't need a gun. I thought they mostly had tasers these days though. 

[Renton 21609]

Just now, Dr Gloom said:

Yes, you're average bobby on the street doesn't need a gun. I thought they mostly had tasers these days though. 

 

They would have if it weren't for fop's petition. 

[Dr Gloom 21915]

 I think I missed that thread 

 

@Renton

Edited June 4, 2017 by Dr Gloom

[ohhh_yeah 2964]

 

8 officers fired 50 rounds with one member of the public hit by a stray bullet.

 

[ewerk 30598]

11 minutes ago, Renton said:

 

Eh? Strange to use Uniited 93 as an example. The passengers there had no choice but to try or die anyway. 

 

One good thing about this country is the fact we have so few circulating fire arms, particularly semi automatic rifles. Imagine if these arseholes had Kalishnikovs like so many of the French attacks?

 

Also, a response rate of 8 minutes is massively impressive. Please don't arm regular police. 

 

 

And if the cop who challenged them was armed and took them down in two minutes then how many lives could have been saved?

[Renton 21609]

4 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

 I think I missed that thread 

 

@Renton

 

Thread? It was his raison d'etre. I still have a recollection of him posting a video of a naked bloke amphetamined of his tits with a micropenis getting tazered. Possibly a young CT. 

[Renton 21609]

2 minutes ago, ewerk said:

 

 

And if the cop who challenged them was armed and took them down in two minutes then how many lives could have been saved?

 

Maybe more people could have been saved. Or maybe more would have died if he had been targeted and his weapon used?

 

Not the point though. British "bobbies" have never been armed which is of huge benefit for community trust.  We're not at the stage yet that these cunts should stop that imo. Tazers are a decent compromise. 

[Tom 14011]

10 minutes ago, ohhh_yeah said:

 

8 officers fired 50 rounds with one member of the public hit by a stray bullet.

 

 

50 rounds for 3 people?

[Renton 21609]

6 minutes ago, Tom said:

 

50 rounds for 3 people?

 

Hitler's death in Inglouious basterds springs to mind. 

[TheGingerQuiff 2412]

If firearms officers are resorting to spray and pray and maiming the public then that's plenty of reason to not give PCs guns 

[Tom 14011]

7 minutes ago, Renton said:

 

Hitler's death in Inglouious basterds springs to mind. 

 

[ewerk 30598]

29 minutes ago, Renton said:

 

Maybe more people could have been saved. Or maybe more would have died if he had been targeted and his weapon used?

 

Not the point though. British "bobbies" have never been armed which is of huge benefit for community trust.  We're not at the stage yet that these cunts should stop that imo. Tazers are a decent compromise. 

 

 

Bollocks, it does very little, if anything, for community trust. The UK is one of a handful of countries that don't arm their police which is even more ridiculous given the threats we all face today.

[Tooj 17]

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-security-iran-idUKKBN18V0NX

[Renton 21609]

5 minutes ago, ewerk said:

 

 

Bollocks, it does very little, if anything, for community trust. The UK is one of a handful of countries that don't arm their police which is even more ridiculous given the threats we all face today.

 

I don't think it's bollocks like. You're tainted from your experience of the bogside. Here, it's just not normal. I remember the first time I went to NYC and seeing the normal police with holsters and wired hand guns. Straight away made me feel uneasy.

 

Look, we've had 3 atrocities in a short time and in the worst of these arming police would have done nowt. The other 2 it's dubious. Put it in perspective on a national scale These extremists want to destroy our liberties. I say fuck them. I think I'm right in saying most the police agree and don't want to be armed with lethal weapons. Tazers are a good compromise. 

[ewerk 30598]

28 minutes ago, Renton said:

 

I don't think it's bollocks like. You're tainted from your experience of the bogside. Here, it's just not normal. I remember the first time I went to NYC and seeing the normal police with holsters and wired hand guns. Straight away made me feel uneasy.

 

Look, we've had 3 atrocities in a short time and in the worst of these arming police would have done nowt. The other 2 it's dubious. Put it in perspective on a national scale These extremists want to destroy our liberties. I say fuck them. I think I'm right in saying most the police agree and don't want to be armed with lethal weapons. Tazers are a good compromise. 

 

It's absolutely normal in 95% of the world, there is no reason whatsoever to say that it wouldn't work in GB.